He once may have been true, but he is now about his ego and celebrity status. I respect him still, but I do not support him anymore, for he makes all of us truth-seekers look bad.

i just watched a video that shows his true self. he may once have been true, but now he is about ego and fame. see for yourself, as he shows up to a peaceful gun-rally in Texas, only to interrupt the speaker and start barking on his bull-horn with no regard to the peaceful protesters, the current speaker, or the fact that he was interrupting.

Alex Jones is corrupt (6 minutes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw...player_embedded

Alex Jones was the one who promoted this rally and championed Bediker on his radio show. Bediker was the man who had his gun show screwed up by the Austin Police and BATFE. If you notice the video was done by WAC (allies to Alex Jones) and the people speaking were glad to see Alex there not angry with him for using his bull horn. Later the group speaking moved to the other side and went right on ahead with their protest. Alex was bullhorning the snearing cops accross the street for the record. Alex has his share of issues for sure but this is not one of them. If this is your evidence Alex is corrupt I have to say you need better evidence my friend. I hope you have higher standards for 9/11 evidence.

Alex Jones should know better than to bull horn or talk over other speakers. It was hard to watch. IMO

Oddly enough, a late friend of mine introduced me to the Alex Jones 9/11 efforts and that is how I arrived here. Although much of what he says about 9/11 holds an element of truth I have increasingly wondered about his use of that Bull Horn and considered that Jones could be an 'agent provocateur' (AP - in the original sense and not provocative lingerie).

Given his embracing of Monckton's phony science I am now more convinced that Alex Jones is an AP. If not then he needs to embrace the real science of climate as should many others around here and sever his connections with the likes of Monckton for the truth will hit him eventually.

Alex Jones is one of the first names that got me into this as well, along with Jordan Maxwell and other people, but that does not prevent me from admitting to the very strong possibility that AJ is now corrupt and all about money and his ego.

I always wondered why his websites were so unprofessional looking, and why he had ads crammed into every bit of free space possible. Ads are not a bad thing, but Prison Planet and InfoWars websites look like a giant billboard. Seeing videos like the one I just shared has finally allowed me to conclude that Alex Jones was once true, but is now more about his money and ego.

He showed up to this protest and demanded the spot light. He did not care that someone else was speaking when he showed up, he did not care that the fellow Americans at the protest looked up to him, he instantly began to insite chaos and commotion at the event, while disrespectfully disrupting the peaceful messages that were being stated by the ralliers.

This explains why Alex Jones is so anti-government, because he no longer is purely seeking truth. Yes he puts out good articles and good stories rather regularly, but mixed into those stories are anti-government propaganda, fear-inducing propaganda, to inspire us to hate our government and despise and distrust it, rather than seek to improve it. Alex Jones is no longer anti-corruption, he is now anti-Obama and anti-government. This is not constructive.

I am convinced that Alex Jones cares more about his fame and celebrity status at this point than actually helping his common fellow American. The video speaks for itself in my opinion, as he demonstrated that he has little or no respect or compassion for the very people that he once may have inspired.

I still respect him, but no longer support him, for money and power have changed his mind. Whether or not he has an agenda to misinform, scare, and confuse, I do not claim to know, but the content he puts out seems to suggest that he has such an agenda.

Decide for yourself, and thanks for sharing your opinion. I have loved Alex Jones for a very long time, and as I said I still respect him, but I no longer feel that he is true enough to deserve my support. He very well could be a misinfo / disinfo agent to help hide the truth in plain site, by screaming about it and being egocentric, so that all mainstream people take conspiracy theories less seriously. Alex Jones is making all of us truth-seekers look bad, and if you think about it, he is slowing progress by doing so.

Just my opinion.

Well I came here to discuss 9/11 issues so I am not going to dwell on the question of Alex Jones being an AP or not nor am I going to debate again the man made global warming fraud. If you are interested I have debated the global warming issue here to the tune of over 150 pages worth: http://randirhodes.freeforums.org/copenhagen-t3877.html I post there as PSYOP. The reason I say this is because your contention here is that Alex is an AP because of his stance on the global warming issue. After careful research and 150 pages of intense debate I concluded Alex and Monckton are correct about man made global warming being a fraud. I won't debate it again here but I honestly don't think Alex is an AP. There are tons of links in that thread which back up my point but if you want to skip to the best stuff go to about page 110 to about 145 or so. My main opponent in the debate is JIMMY who holds your view that man made global warming is real. You may want to just skip all the other comments other then JIMMY and PSYOP (me) because they are mostly just personal attacks and meaningless tripe. The real debate is between JIMMY and myself.

regardless of whether he is a disinfo agent or not, the fact that he is making all of us truth-seekers look bad speaks for itself. even if he is a real truth-seeker but just has a huge ego, that is still not something to be proud of, because it makes us all look bad.

the way he shows up to that rally barking on his bullhorn, talking over the speaker, being disrespectful to the peaceful rally, and insighting commotion and chaos in what was a peaceful, organized rally, shows that he is being counter-productive.

the way he speaks so anti-government and anti-Obama is just wrong in my opinion, because a lot of people then assume that all truth-seekers are anti-government and anti-Obama. I am neither of those things, for I am simply anti-corruption. Anti-corruption, anti-corrupt presidents, anti-corrupt politicians, anti-corrupt everything. Alex Jones makes us all look like paranoid looneys... he should be leading a movement to expose 9/11, not branching off onto crazy new claims such as trying to convince the world that the Haiti earthquake was done by HAARP. he does not stick to the core issues, the most important issues, instead, he gives the public a face to associate crazy, looney, unscientific conspiracy theorists with.

I am not like Alex Jones, but many people think I am because he is such a prominent figure. Not good.

Regardless, he is the one that helped me to wake up to this whole realm of truth, so I do still respect him for what he has done, but because he now seems corrupt, i no longer support him. So in conclusion, I respect him, but no longer support him.

That's my 2 cents anyway

i've read his stuff for years, but there are subjects he won't touch. he makes statements like the the arabs own hollywood etc. his sites are loaded w/ ads so now i avoid them. he's more like a gray character nowadays...what shade of gray is tbd.

Atomicbomb:

Welcome to P4T! we communicate with each other over on RRMB. Nice to make the connection. I first started doubting the Official Story on 9/12/2001 when the White House released the information about the pilot's flying experience and competency levels. The more I studied the evidence and facts, the more I doubted.

Sea ya on the Internet,

Bobcat

Yes Bobcat it's good to see you over here. I started doubting the official story in early 2002 when I saw the squibbs going off in the towers. I said to myself "hey that doesn't look right". Later on the Pentagon evidence or lack of evidence I should say got me going down the rabbit hole even further. Life has not been the same ever since. I have lost a lot of friends because of my 9/11 activism but I would not go back and change anything because the new friends I made are the best people in the world. Once you know the truth you cannot ever go back but then why would anyone want to live in a lie anyway? See you soon Bobcat.

I have also lost friends due to my 9/11 activism and beliefs; however, I have made new friends because of it. I have other friends that just think I am on a weird trip or something. I know that from the other site we don't agree on global warming, but that topic is, to me, not important compared to 9/11 and the implications of not getting to the truth about 9/11. I believe that if the truth is not investigated and exposed about 9/11, our country will continue to slide down a slippery slope that will end in the destruction of America and our government as we have known it to be for over 200 years, long before we will suffer the effects of global warming. Eisenhouer was right in his last SOTU speech. Americans did not heed his warning and now Americans are slaves to the mega-corporations, military-industrial complex, and banks. Terrorists pulled of 9/11 and the anthrax attacks, but they were not from a cave. They were from within our country, a False Flag Attack, and it worked. They got what they wanted.......the Patriot Act, a war in Afghanistan, and a war in Iraq. That is why 9/11 happened.

I, too, will not back down. I, too will not shut up. I will continue till I either die or live to see a real investigation of the crimes of 9/11.

Well said Bobcat46 and I agree with you that 9/11 is far more important for a lot of reasons then the man made global warming scam. My honest advice to you about global warming is to not worry about it. It will do far more good to expose the truth about 9/11.

Atomicbomb: Do you happen to know what is going on at the RRMB? There was no forum listing on the web site today....is it just my browser or is there a problem?

No the link is gone however you can still find the forum if you do a search for a topic title or something like that. I looked up one of the threads on google and found it that way. The RRMB has always been unstable though, it has been taken down 3 times in the last few years.

i am right there with you guys.... i have lost so many friends due to my beliefs in 9/11, but my mind, body, and spirit will not let me deny the overwhelming evidence that shows we have obviously been lied to.

living an honest, true life is more important to me than pleasing my 'friends' who don't even care to understand how or why I believe what I do.

slowly but surely, they are waking up. it takes time, lots of posts, lots of information sharing, lots of patience, lots of self-defense, but surely enough they are starting to discuss it with me and ask questions rather than throw blind darts of hatred and criticism.

Times are changing, and I am so proud to be part of all of this with you! Long live TRUTH, JUSTICE, PEACE, and LOVE.

-Abe

Let me welcome all on this thread I've not welcomed previously to this forum. I'm not around much any more but I've been down 'the rabbit hold' for a very long time. I was in the process of writing a more lengthy introduction when I had a browser crash and lost it. Suffice it to say there is much more going on in the US than meets the eye. I agree that 9/11 is the most important issue precisely because all other issues facing us one way and another are tied into it. Unlike most on this forum, I've come to all this through the idealism of the 1960s and 70s and have much to say about what happened during that era and to that idealism.

I've never trusted Alex Jones. That statement has to be put in context, however. I certainly 'trust' him more than I do corporate media. By that I mean to say that he is at least pointing in the right direction most of the time however much his character distorts the information we need most. That is to say, it isn't enough to simply point out that there are very powerful forces that lie beneath the superficial political awareness brought by corporate media. Yes, these dark forces are real and they have an agenda and are very powerful indeed. And, yes, people need to wake up to this and see them for the genuine threat they are.

But beyond that what is needed most is not merely 'awareness', especially not merely awareness that leads to fear and paranoia. What is needed is, first, a new political paradigm that moves us beyond the false right/left dichotomy in which most of us have been conditioned to think and which is still being played out in the corporate owned media. And, second, with the first in mind, clear strategies for significant economic, political and social change. In other words, it isn't enough to scare the be-jeebitz out of people with horror stories of impending doom. However factual to a certain extent this horror is, if our awareness does not lead us to methodologies and strategies for change -- especially for overcoming the false right/left boondoggle -- and uniting around a core of ideals and principals that can guide us toward a more just and humane nation and world, then we are indeed lost.

The fundamental issue is that of financial reform. If 'we the people' do not have control of how wealth and power are generated, we have no control over our own governance. It truly is that simple. However, the American people and the people of the world have been asleep to this simple fact for a very long time and are being kept asleep to it by those who want to retain all wealth and power to themselves and their class. This, bottom line, is the struggle we are in.

I have many mottos. One of them is: The best way to thwart a revolution is to lead it. Those who are old timers here have seen me say this many times. This motto grows out of having identified with the idealists of my generation, having come of age in the 1960s and 70s, having championed civil rights, social justice and opposed wars of empire such as Vietnam. I have watched as over the years the cultural and political movements and 'heroes' of my generation were marginalized and, when need be, outright assassinated. It is a dirty business and it is ages old.

Ultimately we have to decide who we are as individuals, as a nation/culture/society, what our values really are. And we need to be able to look at this unflinchingly, recognizing our own hypocrisy, gullibility and denial when it shows up, and refusing to allow ourselves to be sidetracked by anyone who doesn't work to unite us and empower us. The dark forces I speak of do not want us to know precisely how powerful we are, much less how powerful we could yet become. I've written many times on this forum that the future will not be like the past. The old Republic is dead and lives on now only as media driven zombie, a spectacle of entertainment for the masses. The truth of 9/11 explodes that perception because it shows us that whatever the truth may be it is hidden from us by government and media alike. It shows us that deception is not the exception but the rule. It is how we are ruled.

Coming into the light, awakening to the the full horror of our situation and then moving beyond fear and paranoia to unity and empowerment is a difficult and life-long struggle. It must encompass every aspect of our being -- economic, political, social and individual. It requires a new and growing awareness of the world around us and, equally, a new and growing awareness of ourselves and all that we are and can yet become. As much as we need sources of information which tell us if not the whole truth at least more of the truth than is generally known, so, too, we need real hope, real organization and strategies. Moreover, it isn't enough to look to others to lead us. This has been the great weakness of the past. We look to others to inform us, champion for us, call to us with fine words and organize us into a force. But creating such hierarchical structures ultimately leave us vulnerable. There are great forces in nature which have no 'center' at all. We need to recognize these forces and look for them in ourselves. We also need to understand the depths of our conditioning, how it is we've come to give up our power all along the way so that we may reclaim our right to resist those forces that want to keep us asleep, powerless and believing in what amounts to an hallucinatory dream.

A completely new world awaits us and the journey begins when something within ourselves is awakened and when we, in our vigilance, refuse to allow it to fall asleep again. No "Moses" can do more than point the way. It is what is in our hearts that matters.

Painter,

Wise words from a wise person. Ultimately we have to change ourselves to change the world but once we do a whole new paradise will open up to us. We have to BE THE CHANGE we want to see in the world. If we want to stop corporate greed then we have to stop buying the products they sell and deny the corporation it's life blood, money. If we want to stop war we have to put down our weapons and refuse to fight, simply recognize all people as brothers and sisters and refuse to do them harm. If we want to stop tyranny we have to refuse our cooperation with it, that's all simply refuse to be ruled. If we want a better world all we have to do is change ourselves, stop participating in the wars, in the greed, in the oppression, and it is ours for the taking. No government or power on earth has control over us unless we willingly surrender it to them. Giving away our liberty and our humanity is our fault, each one of us, and it is up to us to take it back. When we do CHANGE we will have peace, prosperity, and love for everyone in the world, and we will have our paradise.

Gandhi said it best:

Two hundred thousand British simply cannot control six hundred million Indians if those Indians refuse to cooperate.

Gandhi changed the world, so can we.

Wise words from both of you, Painter and Atomic.

and kudos to Painter for accurately describing precisely why Alex Jones is a fraud, because he is 'thwarting our revolution by trying to lead it', yet he does nothing but promote fearful awareness, not solution-oriented or goal-oriented awareness.

Why the hell doesn't AJ have a political action committee service going yet, that sends people quick and easy forms to complete in order to contact their congressmen on important issues? because he just wants to be the news guy that gets all the website hits, all the tv spots, all the fame, all the heroine, etc.

Thanks for your great comments Painter and Atomic. I especially liked the Ghandi quote as well.

I must finish with one myself, so that we employ Justice in a healthy and true way.

Ghandi: 'If it were an eye for an eye, then we all would be blind.'

so we must learn from this mistake, not let it happen again, and not punish those so severely that we become just as dark and sinister as those people were. we need to make an example of them, in a mature and peaceful way. Life in Prison works in my opinion They deserve worse, but at least this way we can laugh at them for years and years once all this is said and done.

Alex Jones may have been true at some point in the past, but he is now about his ego and celebrity status. I respect him still, but I do not support him anymore, for he makes all of us rational, peaceful truth-seekers look bad.

i just watched a video that shows his true self. he may once have been true, but now he is about ego and fame. Watch this video and decide for yourself, as he shows up to a peaceful gun-rally in Texas, only to interrupt the speaker and start barking on his bull-horn with no regard to the peaceful protesters, the current speaker, or the fact that he was interrupting.


Alex Jones is Corrupt (6 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw


Ever wondered why Alex Jones puts out lots of factual information, but for some reason mixes in pseudo-facts and factions (fact+fiction) in his news? Ever wondered why this man who is so "in tune" with how the corruption works, somehow claims that Climate Change is a big scam and that global warming is not real? How can he be so dumb, yet so 'smart' at the same time?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones just shouts fear-producing, anti-government propaganda at the top of his lungs, sometimes even with a bullhorn, yet he NEVER has created a political action committee mailing list to help people contact their congressmen and women about important issues?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones does not ever shout about solutions or possible ways to reduce corruption, yet he constantly is shouting about how much corruption there is and how bad the future is going to be?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones's website is JAM PACKED full of ads meant to generate profits off of the very fear he creates?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones rarely ever brings up 9/11 (and when he does, it is just a brief mentioning of the topic), yet he LOVES talking about Swine Flu, ClimateGate, Obama Is A Socialist, and all the other dumb ass shit he mixes in there with his 'news'?

Well now you know.

Nice try pookie, but FAIL. Alex is an in-your-face truth warrior that sometimes over does it. Not corrupt, just enthusiastically zealous. Watch this......... making power mongers into jelly [laughing]Alex Rocks !!!

aerohead:
Nice try pookie, but FAIL. Alex is an in-your-face truth warrior that sometimes over does it. Not corrupt, just enthusiastically zealous. Watch this......... making power mongers into jelly laughing1.gif

I agree with pookzta - Jones is a gatekeeper-entertainer-controlled opposition-expert fear monger.

I don't believe the Gergen confrontation - I think it's staged.

I don't believe Jones and his cult gang infiltrated the grove, that was a movie production.

Jones is not an intellectual savior leading Americans (especially youth) to the truth, albeit he may have "turned on" some to question current events. He is a version of Rush - aimed at a targeted younger audience that is not so "political"; Beck's and O'Reilly's target audience is older like Rush's but less informed more emotional types. Jones influence on younger humans is interesting - cult like.
Hal Turners audience is clearly for anarchists with violent tendencies, the names of those followers are most likely saved on a large database.

Occasionally his website has interesting articles, but he is obnoxious, as most of those liecaster -mind molders are. Jones "style" acts as a testosterone magnet, he comes close to crossing certain lines, encourages anger - but all is OK by the end of his broadcast because Alex is exposing the neocons.
Jones acting method is similar to a revivalist preacher's - he spews out facts (verses) while speaking rapidly. Sometimes Jones does a good job of preparing - prepping - Americans for the next stop in the road (perhaps one of his main goals/purposes).

Jones "access" is amazing, given that he is supposedly a "regular guy" that is trying to save the Republic, he appears to be "well oiled".
I notice Jones will interview someone and immediately the guest has volumes of space on the net (at several news "sources"), the new "subject of the day" is launched.

I don't get upset about the volumes of propagandist, it's all amazingly amusing - how the whole system works.

Cloak and Daggar (the late Sherman Skolnick's) did not care for Jones style (disclaimer, I have no opinion on the "Jesuit" theory):

link to 2 part video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmNIoFcBigk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrmTgJbDHA...feature=related

I especially like the late William Cooper's views on Jones, and the fact that former president Clinton named William Cooper as the "Most Dangerous Radio Host in America":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r8rFNDh9WQ

A shorter clip of the late William Cooper (September 26, 2001 - shortly before Mr. Cooper was slaughtered - Jones was discrediting William Cooper on the "Jones Show") - Mr. Cooper calls Alex a liar, a coward, a bullshitter. In a sense, sadly, Jones replaced William Cooper as a - "the" "patriot truth teller". Mr. Cooper predicted 911 on his broadcast show *before it happened* and said Osama would be blamed for it, and it would lead into other events:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ6R1My9_F8

William Cooper predicts 911 (and "outs" Osama) June 2001:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTjPGy2k_U

Shorter clip with Mr. Coopers friend on Mr. Coopers prediction and the death of William Cooper:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRm7RJtDli4...feature=related

Finally a clip of Alex Jones claiming that Alex Jones predicted 911, that he was "the first to expose".
(July 2001):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JHqB7w9WSI&NR=1

This is amazing.
Somebody, who promotes here Ben Fulford - who openly states he belongs to some "Asian New Ageish secret societies collaborating with Rothschilds", somebody starting topics with conspiracy theories about Climategate origins in cointelops - is smearing AJ at the same place for bullhorning.
...Is amazed around with some his funny stoical comments?

Interesting essay on Mr. Jones - author recommends viewing clips related to his essay
The 1st clip has some nice footage of Lord Monk

[The views in this essay are those of the author alone. Publication here does not constitute endorsement by disinformation®: Full Disclosure: disinformation® has distributed two of Mr. Jones' films.]

Source: Black Sun Gazette: http://blacksungazette.com/?p=1837
fair use

Controlled Opposition Hard Questions About Alex Jones

Special thanks to Bulldogger for showing me the way to the rabbit hole.

Many readers of Black Sun Gazette are doubtless familiar with Alex Jones, the Austin, TX-based radio show host and film maker. I have long struggled with what to make of Alex Jones. On the one hand, he provides people with difficult to find information about the frightening truth of the American government’s lurch toward police state and global empire. On the other, he is a frothing at the mouth crypto-fascist who seems to do little more than lead people down blind alleys and arguably does more to terrorize people into inaction than anything to spur resistance. Recently, however, information has been brought to my attention that is worth sharing with my reading public. This article is meant to be primarily speculative, though I think that the issues that I raise bear consideration.

Clip - The Russian Rabbit Hole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B_gN2t1X0A...player_embedded

The above video is required viewing for anyone wishing to seriously consider who Alex Jones is, what his broader role in society is, who benefits, and why. Even though the video largely deals with the media outlet formerly known as Russia Today, it provides the necessary backdrop for this narrative. I admit that the video raises more questions than it answers, but these questions are a necessary first step towards having this discussion. Primarily, the video introduces us to the players in this bizarre tragicomedy.

Russia Today

RT, formerly known as Russia Today, is a news outlet owned by the Russian state, and almost certainly an arm of Russian intelligence. Such claims can ever only be supported- once again, short of confessions or canceled checks- by circumstantial evidence. For those with a lick of common sense, the knowledge that RT is owned by the Russian state, coupled with fifteen seconds spent surveying these advertisements should be convincing enough to heavily support the connection. That the Russian government would have a program similar to Voice of America should come as a surprise to no one. However, the more curious question is why do they repeatedly shill for Alex Jones and We Are Change, while providing copious amounts of time for the fascistic American “Patriot” to voice its views?

Clip: Russia Today Shills For Alex Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTrGBecBEQ...player_embedded

The Corporatist / Christian American Far Right

These elements are key in understanding how all of this ties together. Specifically, I am talking about highly disciplined and professional organizations such as the Western Goals Foundation, and the Council for National Policy. Still, I am not leaving out what could be termed the more “popular frontist” elements of the movement including Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, and most importantly the John Birch Society. The last of which is implicated by highly suggestive circumstantial evidence to be a prime candidate for a KGB front operation.

Alex Jones

Alex Jones is indisputably a savvy media operator. Seemingly from out of nowhere he has built a cottage industry media empire out of Austin, TX, winning the ear of good old boys, Hollywood elites, and an international community of youth who are highly skeptical of the official narrative pushed by the capitalist media. He also has all the earmarks of an agent provocateur, acting as a person who does much to attract radically-minded but politically confused youth while at the same time actively derailing the movements he purports to endorse. As an aside and a segue; I have listened to Alex Jones’s radio show for years. I have never heard him “cut a mic” Bill O’Reilly style except for here:

Clip - Alex Jones and John Birch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYeVv24MWIw...player_embedded

Cui Bono?

This is all interesting, but what does it say? What ties it all together? To even begin to answer these questions, they must be broken down into a few more constituent parts. However, the underlying question is always cui bono? Who benefits from the words and ideas of Alex Jones?

Climate Instability Denial

There is, among the mainstream scientific community, a consensus that the Earth’s climate is changing, and that human activity is the root cause. Those who deny this are frequently funded by those with a strong interest in maintaining the status quo on energy production. Namely, international energy cartels such as Exxon-Mobil, and the governments of countries sitting on large fossil fuel reserves.

Intensification of Exploitation

Despite their rhetoric, the libertarian, patriot, and constitutionalist movements are little more than ideological cover for a return to the bad old days of the Gilded Age. This was a time of extremely pointed superexploitation of labor by capital during the first period of American ascendancy after the defeat of the Southern slavocracy by an alliance of Northern capital, labor, and free land holders, with a big assist from revolutionary slaves. There are places on Earth, most notably China, but any Asian export platform will do, where labor, safety, and wage conditions are comparable or worse to the Gilded Age in the United States. Those who viewed the video at the beginning of this entry will note that David Koch is heavily invested in selling Chinese-style labor conditions on American soil to the American people.

Clip - "I Think Your A Parasite Rachel Maddow to Tim Phillips Pt 2": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1E5OL0Tkqw...player_embedded

Drifting Toward Police State

When capitalism was restored in the Soviet Union, little else changed about Russia and the other former Soviet republics. They remain intensely authoritarian countries with little in the way of free elections or basic human freedoms. For its own part, the United States has become increasingly authoritarian over the last 40 years, culminating with the rule of George W. Bush, who paid little attention in either action or rhetoric to the human rights and privacy protections enshrined in the United States Constitution. While such policies were deeply unpopular among Americans of all political stripes, they were supported vigorously by Bush’s supporters little and big.

A New Era of Inter-Imperialist Rivalry

It wasn’t just the government that didn’t change at the end of the Soviet Union. The Russian Bear remains in sharp competition with the United States, particularly since the fomentation of color revolutions by American intelligence in Russia’s neighbors immediate and otherwise. It is important to remember that “taking over” the United States would not be in the best interests of Russian capital. Assuming responsibility for our problems is too difficult and expensive. However- and this is very, very important- removing the United States from the world scene as an international player frees up Russia’s hand politically, economically, and culturally in Europe as well as the developing world, in particular southwest and central Asia.

Politics Makes Strange Bedfellows

Despite a lack of explicit rhetoric on the subject, it doesn’t seem like a bold claim to say that many on the far corporate / Christian right have some sort of admiration for China and Russia. In the case of the former, China is a model for a hyperexploitative form of capitalism where workers have almost nothing in the way of rights or protections. In the case of the latter, you have a political system run by a nationalist strongman. Even term limits haven’t prevented Vladimir Putin from continuing his iron grip over Russia. Translated into the American, this would mean a repeal of almost all labor laws and an intensification of the imperial Presidency, two projects which are very near and dear to the hearts of the far right in the United States.

Alex Jones: Controlled Opposition

If you’ve listened to Alex Jones you’ll notice that one thread runs throughout his show. Nearly everyone is some kind of agent of the system. Even the venerable Glenn Beck whose rhetoric is nearly identical to that of Alex Jones. Both attack the Federal Reserve, a conspiracy of eugenicists, and progressivism and socialism. Both are also self-styled champions of “the little guy” and “mainstream America.” Still, Beck earns a vitriol on Alex Jones’s radio show similar to that of anyone else Jones deems to be a tool of the system. All of this raises a very important question: Why is Alex Jones, the man who attacks anyone and everything as a tool of the system so ga ga in love with the John Birch Society, a group that even many on the far right fear as an intelligence organization? Why is he so incensed by attacks on the John Birch Society that he cuts off a caller who criticizes them? Further, why is a man so in love with the United States and its Constitution, so distrustful of “globalist” (i.e. foreign) elites willing to go on a news service run by remnants of the KGB? Why is he willing to have Luke Rudkowski on his show every fifteen minutes when Mr. Rudkowski “works for the Russian media,” which almost certainly means Russia Today? It is worth noting that Rudkowski’s group We Are Change are a sort of unofficial youth movement of Alex Jones, and the connection between Rudkowski and the “Russian media” raises serious questions about who funds WAC and why.

Clip - Luke Rudkowski "US Media Doesn't Want Truth": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSKuMmyHdLg...player_embedded

“You Judge a Tree By It’s Fruits”

The above quote is from Alex Jones in his defense of the John Birch Society. What are Alex Jones’s fruits? He goes on the radio every day shrieking like a madman about a “global control grid” that is going to “enslave” Americans. In addition to promoting generalized fear and anxiety, he also promotes a political agenda that favors withdrawing the United States from the world stage. But his “fruits,” such as they are, go beyond that. Alex Jones is also an accomplished agent provocateur. Notice how his “confrontation” of Michelle Malkin has more to do with petty personal attacks than a political deconstruction of her line in the following video. Before watching, remember that Michelle Malkin is part of the wing of the Republican Party which supports a robust American military presence around the world.

Clip - Alex Jones V Michelle Malkin (Denver DNC): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9YFDM2aMGQ...player_embedded

Now watch this video where a normal, peaceful protest of what could be termed mainstream libertarians against gun control is thrown into utter chaos and turned into a sideshow by Alex Jones and his bullhorn:

Clip - Alex Jones Turns Peaceful Gun Rights Demo Into CHAOS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdJ4zhiB2s4...player_embedded

Tying It All Together

Most people reading this blog are probably familiar with COINTELPRO. However, it isn’t just the United States government that has spies and agents. Private groups have them as well. Is it too outrageous to assume that groups like the Western Goals Foundation and the Council on National Policy have intelligence operations? Is it further too outrageous to assume that their intelligence operations work hand in hand with Russian intelligence in an attempt at finding common cause? The common cause being a fifth columnist beneficiary of the collapse of the United States as an international player. Once you answer either of those questions in the affirmative you then have to acknowledge that someone, and probably a very effective and public “someone” is acting as an intelligent agent for the aforementioned groups.

Which brings us back to Alex Jones. Who is Alex Jones? Why is so little known about his life before he became a public personality? How is he able to get high profile people like the head of the Rothschild family and Nobel laureates on his show? How is it that he has such a large, widespread audience, but is never able to muster any effective resistance to the “globalists” that he opposes? Why is he pushed so hard by Russia Today? His studio was recently refurnished- who provided these funds?

These are all questions which require careful thought and warrant answers. However, there does seem to be considerable circumstantial evidence implicating Alex Jones as an agent provocateur for a wing of the American ruling elite who have made their peace with Chinese and Russian capital, or at least think that they have. I would sincerely like to be pointed in the direction of more information about Mr. Jones, and welcome contributions from my readers unpacking all of this rather diffuse information.

More on Jones and his "holdings" wealth / connections-

Source: http://www.alexjonesmachine.com/betlev.htm

fair use

Bhavani Lev and the Bet Lev Foundation and More...

Lorie Kramer - Houston, TX

July 4, 2009
Who is Bhavani Lev, you might be asking, and what is the Bet Lev Foundation?
The foundation website can be seen here.

Bhavani Lev is actually Holly B. Lev, she changed her name. Well, I guess it depends where she is and what she's doing as to which name she uses. On the Organic India website her profile says, "It was the summer of 1996 when Holly B. Lev, an American traveller, came to India in search for answers to the void she felt in her life. Hailing from a wealthy family of Virginia,..." and "In the villages surrounding Kukrail, Bhavani (her Indian name) is an enigma."

This is all very interesting, especially when one understands to whom the "wealthy family of Virginia" refers.

In a 2007 article entitled "Organic Growth" the author descibes Lev as, "Holly Bronfman-Lev, an entrepreneur who, he said, gave up a privileged lifestyle to devote her time to bettering the lives of Indian farmers." That sounds very nice, a generous thing to do...but, wait a minute...did he say Bronfman?

The author goes on..."(she is the daughter of Edgar Bronfman (Sr.), former chairman and owner of the Seagram's Company)." Yep, he said Bronfman alright! Good golly, Holly!

Edgar Sr., of course, has been a, shall we say, mover and shaker for quite some time. Some would refer to him as a mega zionist. The image above shows him jovially shaking hands with the one and only, Erich Honecker in Berlin in October of 1988. Edgar was in Berlin that day with some other notables like Peter Kirchner (chairman of the Jewish municipality Berlin) and Werner Jarowinsky

So, Holly B. Lev is Holly Bronfman, sister of Edgar Bronfman Jr., and she has given up her "privileged lifestyle." Maybe that's why she didn't go to the Four Seasons turns 50 bash with big daddy and bro. But oddly, according to HITS Daily Double Holly owns 100% of Lev Group Ltd.

Business seems to be pretty good for Holly, as the above mentioned article states, "Bronfman’s family ties extend to a November 2006 deal, listed in the above-mentioned SEC filing, for a three-year licensing agreement with Lev Group Ltd. for the “distribution of Warner Music Group repertoire in Israel in digital and physical formats.”

Another odd thing for someone who gave up a priviledged lifestyle...she "holds approximately -- 6,424% in - Treetops" Treetops, as in Treetops Acquisition Group LP as in the Federal Reserve System - Israel Discount Bank Ltd., Tel Aviv, Israel. Sure seems like Holly didn't give up as much as is touted.

So enough about Mrs. Lev...this gets me wondering...Elizabeth Schurig is Holly's lawyer and Elizabeth Schurig is Alex and Kelly Jones' lawyer. HUH? Why do the Joneses have the same attorney as little 'ol Holly Bronfman-Lev? Schurig probably doesn't give many discounts, I mean once you're working for the Bronfmans, I doubt there's a sliding scale to accomodate less wealthy clients, but I could be wrong. Jones begs for money all the time. Does the money bomb money help pay for Jones' high priced Bronfman lawyer? Hmmmm?

And how does Elizabeth feel representing someone who globally rails against the Federal Reserve and it's evil ways; while she's helping Holly B. manage things? Maybe Elizabeth just doesn't listen to the show or watch any of the videos. She's probably too busy. Whatever. Let's look at those documents in Texas again.

According to Texas records, when Free Speech Systems was born Nov. 16, 2007, the address of the owners (Alex and Kelly Jones) was listed on Dogwood Creek Drive. It is in quite a fancy neighborhood once you see past the wall. In fact, the Travis County Appraisal District has the house owned by "JONES E & K NICHOLS", deeded August 30, 2007, with a current value of $725,965.00. Gee Alex, I guess you sold a few more DVD's than I thought.

But wait, on January 3, 2008, Ms. Schurig assisted the Joneses again in respect to Free Speech Systems and filed a "Certificate of Correction" which deleted Kelly Jones at the Dogwood address as a manager of Free Speech systems, and changed Alex's Jones' address to 910 West Mary St. Curious.

But wait again, Ms. Schurig did the same thing to Jones Productions LLC formed Nov.14, 2007. On Jan. 3, 2008, she filed a correction; but there she changed Alex's address to 100 Congress Ave., 22nd floor.

Wait a minute, I know where that building is; it's down by the "Bat Bridge." It's the location of Schurig Jetel Beckett Tackett, Ms. Elizabeth's office. So now Alex's corporate address is a Bronfman's lawyer's address?

Let's look at those other Jones-owned companies.

How about Prison Planet TV LLC? That entity was born Nov. 15, 2007 and shows the "manager" to be Magnolia Holdings Limited Partnership at the 100 Congress, 22nd floor address. But wait, on Jan. 7, 2008, busy little Elizabeth corrected the Certificate of Formation by altering the "Governing Authority" to become Alex Jones, at the 100 Congress, 22nd floor address. Curiouser and curioser.

Let's look at Jones Report LLC which was formed on Nov. 15, 2007 with Magnolia Holdings LP as the governing authority. On Jan. 3, 2008, busy, busy Elizabeth filed yet another Certificate of Correction which altered the Governing Authority to be Alex Jones....at the 100 Congress, 22nd floor address.

How about Infowars LLC? It was formed Nov. 15, 2007 as well, and on Jan. 7, 2008, yet another Certificate of Correction was filed, altering the "Governing Authority" to become Alex Jones, at the 100 Congress, 22nd floor address.

So, what I'm seeing here is:

* David Sewell taking care of business until summer or fall of 2007.

* Alex and Kelly getting a fine house on August 30, 2007.

* Elizabeth Schurig, with obvious connections to the Bronfmans, is now taking care of business for the Joneses and setting up several Jones companies mid November 2007.

* Elizabeth Schurig stepping in and getting busy "correcting" company documents the first week of the new year 2008; taking Mrs. Kelly off of everything, and changing addresses. (Which makes me wonder in what authority did Kelly make the statement in Chris Arnold's report that she is an owner/manager?)

* The only company formed by Jones that has not been "corrected" by Schurig is A. Emric Productions formed May 10, 2007. David Sewell is listed as organizer on the document.

I'm just saying....this is all a bit much for me, how about you?

Link to home page / index: http://www.alexjonesmachine.com/round2.htm

Hmmm,
AJ runs too many commercials on his show, for my liking.
I think if he didn't need to run adds, he wouldn't.
Adverisements would make it necessary for AJ to sensor his topics,
that may not be in the liking of his advertisers.

But then again, his show is being locked out in countries
and firewalls around the world, not just China.
And that, sounds a little too self defeating for a co-intell operation.

But it's good to always check your sources,
and never rely on a single source for information,
before acting upon it.

...So, why not chip in to Pilots for 9/11 Truth, instead.
(there's a chip-in box at the bottom of the page)

lunk:
But it's good to always check your sources,
and never rely on a single source for information,
before acting upon it.

...So, why not chip in to Pilots for 9/11 Truth, instead.
(there's a chip-in box at the bottom of the page)

Agree, always strive to check various sources, attempt to glean the snippets of truth.

Pilots for 911 truth is one of the very few sites that uses logic, and does not commercialize
(no T shirts with esteemed personalities faces for sale)
Everyone who can should contribute according to their means (I have).

Only fair.

Alex Jones may have been true at some point in the past, but he is now about his ego and celebrity status. I respect him still, but I do not support him anymore, for he makes all of us rational, peaceful truth-seekers look bad.

i just watched a video that shows his true self. he may once have been true, but now he is about ego and fame. Watch this video and decide for yourself, as he shows up to a peaceful gun-rally in Texas, only to interrupt the speaker and start barking on his bull-horn with no regard to the peaceful protesters, the current speaker, or the fact that he was interrupting.


Alex Jones is Corrupt (6 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw


Ever wondered why Alex Jones puts out lots of factual information, but for some reason mixes in pseudo-facts and factions (fact+fiction) in his news? Ever wondered why this man who is so "in tune" with how the corruption works, somehow claims that Climate Change is a big scam and that global warming is not real? How can he be so dumb, yet so 'smart' at the same time?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones just shouts fear-producing, anti-government propaganda at the top of his lungs, sometimes even with a bullhorn, yet he NEVER has created a political action committee mailing list to help people contact their congressmen and women about important issues?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones does not ever shout about solutions or possible ways to reduce corruption, yet he constantly is shouting about how much corruption there is and how bad the future is going to be?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones's website is JAM PACKED full of ads meant to generate profits off of the very fear he creates?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones rarely ever brings up 9/11 (and when he does, it is just a brief mentioning of the topic), yet he LOVES talking about Swine Flu, ClimateGate, Obama Is A Socialist, and all the other dumb ass shit he mixes in there with his 'news'?

Well now you know.



*UPDATE*

The speaker in the first video I posted later called out Alex Jones over the bullhorn. Just wanted to share this update with ya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQHMs-yXczI&

P.S. - If anyone questions my integrity as a person, you can learn more about me on facebook, my full name is Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez, and I am an M1 medical student at the University of Illinois. Or if you would prefer, you can email me at arodri77@illinois.edu

Either way... Alex Jones is corrupt, and people are finally catching on to it.

Long Live Peace, Love, Unity, Respect, Truth, Justice, and Liberty for all.

-Abe

Alex Jones was recently caught lying about the peaceful gun-rally he chaotically disrupted, on his radio show on 1/21/2010.

He was caught lying about the true nature of the very same peaceful gun-rights rally that he came and disrupted in an attempt to cover up his extremely telling behavior.

New video compiled showing clips from before, during, and after Alex Jones's obnoxious arrival at the gun-show, contrasted to Alex Jones's words on his radio station shortly after. He is corrupt, and it is now obvious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TACalwg360c

He slipped up at this rally big time, and he is trying to cover for it.

These videos are spreading very, very quickly.

I am glad the truth is coming out regarding this corrupt individual.

LONG LIVE PEACE, LOVE, UNITY, RESPECT, TRUTH, JUSTICE, & LIBERTY

Our time is now.

With Love,

-Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez



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below you will find my original post regarding this matter, in case you did not see the other clips from the actual gun rally. It was very peaceful until Alex Jones showed up, to say the very least:


Alex Jones may have been true at some point in the past, but he is now about his ego and celebrity status. I respect him still, but I do not support him anymore, for he makes all of us rational, peaceful truth-seekers look bad.

i just watched a video that shows his true self. Watch this video and decide for yourself, as he shows up to a peaceful gun-rally in Texas, only to interrupt the speaker and start barking on his bull-horn with no regard to the peaceful protesters, the current speaker, or the fact that he was interrupting.


Alex Jones is Corrupt (6 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw


Ever wondered why Alex Jones puts out lots of factual information, but for some reason mixes in pseudo-facts and factions (fact+fiction) in his news? Ever wondered why this man who is so "in tune" with how the corruption works, somehow claims that Climate Change is a big scam and that global warming is not real? How can he be so dumb, yet so 'smart' at the same time?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones just shouts fear-producing, anti-government propaganda at the top of his lungs, sometimes even with a bullhorn, yet he NEVER has created a political action committee mailing list to help people contact their congressmen and women about important issues?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones does not ever shout about solutions or possible ways to reduce corruption, yet he constantly is shouting about how much corruption there is and how bad the future is going to be?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones's website is JAM PACKED full of ads meant to generate profits off of the very fear he creates?

Ever wondered why Alex Jones rarely ever brings up 9/11 (and when he does, it is just a brief mentioning of the topic), yet he LOVES talking about Swine Flu, ClimateGate, Obama Is A Socialist, and all the other dumb ass shit he mixes in there with his 'news'?

Well now you know.




The speaker in that kicked off the rally later expressed his new found opinion regarding Alex Jones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQHMs-yXczI...feature=related

MODERATOR! THIS NEWS IS NEW! HE WAS CAUGHT LYING ON JULY 21ST! PLEASE SPREAD THIS, IT IS FAR MORE OBVIOUS THAN THE ORIGINAL VIDEO I POSTED! PLEASE! PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP TO HIM! THIS VIDEO IS MUCH MUCH MORE RECENT AND IT IS MUCH MUCH BETTER!

this article is pretty good. there is so much evidence out there showing that Alex Jones is corrupt. Who he is serving though, we dont know for sure, but it is obvious that he is being paid by some group to confuse us and mislead us.

very interesting information here.

I don't trust Alex Jones. Never have. But, guess what, pookzta , I don't trust you either. You've certainly given me no reason to.

Jones is a cartoon of himself - always has been. That's been the key to his popularity among a portion of the populace that love the drama he provides, and a safety valve for the elite he rallies against. It's ironic, his over-the-top-ness both fuels Jones' popularity while marginalizing him.

I seriously doubt he's a shill though, you see him trying to come off as serious as possible sometimes, pointing to all the documentation he has prepared for various claims. But then his ego or the fact that his dramatics got him to where he is gets the best of him.

The people in charge are pretty smart - they know the best way to corral Alex Jones is to just leave him alone and let him rant and rave.

IMHO ... 2 cents.

AJ is doing what he has to do to get the word out and is doing a great job in my opinion.

I listen to AJ almost everyday as my background "sound" while doing my work as I know if something important is breaking, AJ will cover it.

Sure he is a character, sure he goes overboard at times, sure i dont agree with everything he does or says and at times i even have to say "Shut up AJ! Geeeze!" when he rants too much... and turn off the stream..

With that said... he is getting more and more people to wake up and most importantly... THINK!

I'm doing my part and i can understand a bit of what AJ goes through when people call in to say "Hey, you should over this... you should do this... you should do that!"

....as if he is omnipresent, can expand the amount of time in a day, and has a budget of Fox News or CNN.

Those who are critics of AJ, i challenge you to do better.

Finally, pooktza, please do not spam our forum with your hatred for Alex. It will only be merged into this thread. If you continue to do so, warnings will commence and then suspensions. This initial warning has nothing to do with your content as i would give anyone else the same warning who would spam multiple forums sections of our board with the same topic. I hope i make myself clear.


as you were...

I admit (sheepishly) that I'm grateful Mr. Jones interviewed Aaron Russo.

In that spirit - here's the clip (10 min):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA...feature=related

Its painfully obvious to me who the shill and Agent Provocateur is here. Imagine for a second you are Alex Jones. You KNOW the truth about 9/11,the JFK cover-up, Global Warming, the Elite takeover, The tax fraud, The War fraud and every other real conspiracy. You love your country and you have had enough, you have no fear and you must do something ! So you get a bull horn and start yelling, trying to warn your fellow citizens who are almost hopelessly lost in a daze of TV reality shows and selfish carelessness. You are trying to be obedient to your God and your Country. You are trying to do what your fore-fathers told you to do- "Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. Thomas Jefferson I doubt very seriously that any of you skeptics of AJ have the nuts to stand up to a small fraction of the powers he has in his lifetime. Stop criticizing, grab a bullhorn and head down to your local FED Reserve building, DMV or Courthouse.Do that for 20 years, and then you may be qualified to criticize AJ for making a fewmistakes. Alex has probably brought more people to the truth movement than any person to ever live. He was fighting the power before most of us were born. How many times have you refused tyranny Pookzta ? How many times have you been arrested for it ? How many marches have you led ? If the answer to these questions is never.....you should shut the hell up about Alex and get busy.

What about Ron Paul. Is he corrupt too ? Liberty will prevail.

Oh come on guys seriously atleast he is publishing news stories that the mainstream
media wont even touch because they are biased against people like us and afraid
of upsetting the GUBBERMENT.

alex jones is a fake paytriot. an absolute phony. a gatekeeping shill who boxes the sheep up that break out of the fence and keeps them voting republican.

his moneybombs are a joke that help pay for his lavish lifestyle, his nice mansion, glass bottom boat, and suv's. it finances his parties with joe rogan and charlie sheen.

the majority of his guests belong to the council of national policy. whats that? something this mockingbird will never tell you about on his show so do your homework. don't forget to give your money to the freemason ron paul and dedicate your time raising awareness for him to. voting republican is our only hope.....when he bows down to jeb bush in 2012 like he did john mccain in 2008 don't get discouraged, just keep giving alex jones your money.

lets hang some jokers signs and "v" signs to help market his new t-shirts too.

oh whats that? faux news needs someone to come on and make us look like a bunch of asses? alex jones will do it!!! go alex!!! always involved with someone from faux, isn't he? hannity, napolitano, colmes...alex will be there. chris matthews needs to tie us with the people who hate obama for being a black muslim....who will do it??? alex jones!!!

how about alex's y2k broadcast?

how about the gun rally he ruined when he showed up the same time that the media showed up?

how about when he was running around telling everyone that the nwo was going to assassinate obama?

how about when he made an ass out of everyone by hyping the "biggest story of his career" for a week and it turned out to be cokehead sheen's fictitious interview with obama that he let everyone run around promoting as being legitimate for a couple hours before putting a disclaimer on it that it wasn't real?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g8Sy3DOmXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAT07PqSw_0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFEaam2cojY

alex jones is the pt barnum of this movement. he is an asset of the council for national policy. he promotes freemason republicans who aren't 9/11 truthers for president while ignoring independent 9/11 truth candidates.

he is our enemy.

and if you don't believe me you'll still be voting for a republican while being a 9/11 truther fully aware of the phony republican/democrat 2 party dictatorship. wake up, this guy is a joke.

lets not forget "don't touch the pentagon its a honeypot, they're setting us up they're going to release a video of the plane hitting the building" times infinity. then he brings april gallop on and tries to make her say a missile hit the building more times than i can count :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCON1AncfoM

he also blocked my involvement with loose change when he took it over as executive producer calling me a nazi skinhead and saying susan mcelwain was a crazy lady.

and the number of times he has invited pilots and cit on his show still stands at zero, doesn't it?

fuck him. fake PAYtriot.

Well i see you have a bit of an axe to grind with Alex,
and that cool. We all have people in this movement that
chap our ass or that we dont like. Cant say i agree with
some of your examples tho. Ive heard him bash Bush more
than Obama. And ive never heard Ron Paul say that his
party was better than the other. He is the only congressman
that will atleast hear truth about 9/11 and i believe he knows
the truth but cannot fight that fight alone.
Alex is wild and does make mistakes. But how can someone
who has been so effective at bringing so many people into the
truth about our nation and the world, be working for the system ?
He is in their face 24/7. If the truth movement ever joins forces,
the tyrannical system would collapse. But with all this infighting,
finger pointing and accusations, that will never happen. And those
are the ones i look to as shills, AP's and disinfo agents. If getting to
the bottom of the truth and bringing about change to release us from
the bondage of tyranny is really the goal, then how is fighting each
other gonna get us there ? This is not about ego or who takes the credit
or who is the best patriot etc. Its about getting our Country and our
Liberty back. And the way i see it, AJ has done a very good job at
waking people up to real current events.

I respect your opinion, however i dont agree with it.

well i see you missed everything about the y2k broadcast, the texas gun rally, obama being assassinated, and the council for national policy. thats all invisible to you like i never typed it. thats alright, it is to most.





how about instead of a vague 'not agreeing' with my examples challenge me to back them up and actually name which examples you don't agree with?

after all, the truth is with you, right?



is this response intended for me? or was it directed towards someone else? i see no relevance in this comment...





thats good. can you quote the person who said ron paul said his party was better than the other?

i said alex jones boxes up the sheep that break through the fence and keeps them voting for freemason republicans like ron paul. if you knew what the council for national policy was you would understand what jones is doing....






yeah and in 2008 i heard a bunch of people like you saying things like that about a member of the democratic party. we see how that worked out. im sure electing a republican will solve everything. look at their track record. everytime a democrat screws our country up a republican comes to the rescue....




makes mistakes? hes a mockingbird!!!! im waiting for him to get his own show on faux news next....




because hes still a gatekeeper who boxes the sheep back up. keeps them supporting the christian right wing republican party. never goes out of the way to identify the real perps by name on a routine basis but always calls them globalists, new world order, bildeberger, etc. he never ever says zionists and jesuits.

he also is a zionist and openly stated his support for israel :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNseMDToKdk

im sure im wasting my time as i dont expect a detailed response.....





yeah and bullhorning these fascists pigs and telling them how we know they're fascist pigs has really accomplished a lot. here's a complete list :








i see the people who can't quote and directly respond to evidence and offering a lot of generic rhetoric in its place as being "shills, AP's, and disinfo agents".




because when a sheep sees someone else boxing up the other sheep who have broken through the fence he feels the need to warn the other sheep that they've only moved on to a new shepherd. now vote republican and give to alex jones' money bomb which is going to go to paying for alex's lavish life style. keeping up with his hollywood friends is hard to do.

btw, did you know that according to alex, arabs run hollywood?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyMAYc3XtY






you're right. its about freedom. its about educating people what freedom is. not waking them up and keeping them trapped in the matrix. keeping them in the enslavement system. alex jones doesn't even touch on what freedom really is and yet he wraps himself up in a flag and pushes dvds and tshirts like a carnival barker.



countries are lines drawn on paper by rulers and kings. i care not for them. they do nothing for me or my family. america is a cage around your mind. all of our problems exist because we believe in 'america' which is lines drawn on paper by rich elitist pigs. but see now we're getting into the topic of what real freedom is and thats off topic.

Dom, you have me confused with someone who wants to
spend the rest of my life arguing opinions with someone.
If you enjoy it, more power to you. I know what i have heard
Alex say and do. He has called out Bush, the Rockefellers and
the Rothchilds. Its people like you who divide movements with your
constant nit picking and bashing. Maybe thats your job ?
Dont know, dont care. I wont be tired up in petty arguments with people,
especially when they're bashing someone who has put his life on the line
to protect yours. IMO, If this were 1962, Alex would be stacked up
and put down like the rest if the collateral damage. Cant serve 2
masters, and Alex has proven to me that he serves us. Obviously
you disagree. But i wonder how much time you have spent compared
to Alex, fighting and exposing corruption ? Guess you didnt see
the Arron Russo interview or Fall of the Republic or the Obama
Deception or the Geraldo Rivera Live 9/11 Crash or.......................

Enjoy your bash fest.

you fail to respond. i stated facts. you cant face them. worthless reply, like most people from jonestown. enjoy your box, remember to vote republican to save america.

Nice bait but sorry,
ive learned to not feed the trolls.

You know nothing about me or Alex.

i know you feel compelled to comment about my posts but when i try to engage you further or challenge you to disprove something i said you have no time for it and yet here you are making another snide remark.

know why i didn't address anyone or quote anyone? because i wasn't interested in arguing with people. i wanted to say my peace and move on unless someone was going to challenge me as if something i've stated was incorrect.

people from jonestown never want to confront the facts about their messiah. just keep drinking the kool aid....

can you name a 911 witness alex jones has had on that wasn't april gallop who he spent all his time trying to get to discredit herself by saying a missile hit the pentagon?

how about instead of typing another comment that adds absolutely nothing to this discussion you go and research who the council for national policy is and do something productive?

hmm, the good thing about gate-keepers is that they tend to be on the perimeter of the field, showing the fence line. And it is good to know, where the perceived boundaries of this manipulated field, are. Also, AJ is probably the first "voice" people hear, when they start waking up. So i try to make a point of listening to his show.

He has spent a huge amount of time regularly broadcasting,
and he has made a huge number of documentaries videos.
And also, indirectly, Jesses' show Conspiracy Theories on the pentagon,
brought P4T into the field of mass awareness.

If you promise to turn off the AJ, I'll buy you a subscription to XM Radio for your birthday?

i love the way you said you dont have time to debate anything i outlined and yet continue to post.....

p.s. aaron russo didn't witness anything on 9/11. barry jennings was interviewed by dylan avery. you fail.

Dom your not fooling anyone bro.
You just showed your hand, and its a loser.