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pookzta
Judy D. Wood is a former professor of mechanical engineering with research interests in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, optical methods, deformation analysis, and the materials characterization of biomaterials and composite materials. She is a member of the Society for Experimental Mechanics (SEM), co-founded SEM’s Biological Systems and Materials Division, and currently serves on the SEM Composite Materials Technical Division.

Dr. Wood received her

B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering),
M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and
Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia.
Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental method to measure thermal stresses in bimaterial joints. She has taught courses including
Experimental Stress Analysis,
Engineering Mechanics,
Mechanics of Materials (Strength of Materials)
Strength of Materials Testing
Is this what Eisenhower warned us of?


Figure 1. My intellectual integrity prevents me from calling this a collapse. This is why I have chosen to stand up. My conscience leaves me no other choice.


From 1999 to 2006 Dr. Wood has been an assistant professor in the Mechanical Engineering Department at Clemson University in Clemson, South Carolina. Before moving to Clemson she spent three years as a postdoctoral research associate in the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Tech.
One of Dr. Wood's research interests is biomimicry, or applying the mechanical structures of biological materials to engineering design using engineering materials. Other recent research has investigated the deformation behavior of materials and structures with complex geometries and complex material properties, such as fiber-reinforced composite materials and biological materials. Dr. Wood is an expert in the use of moiré interferometry, a full-field optical method that is used in stress analysis, as well as materials characterization and other types of interference. In recent years, Dr. Wood and her students have developed optical systems with various wavelengths and waveguides. Dr. Wood has over 60 technical publications in refereed journals, conference proceedings, and edited monographs and special technical reports.

Dr. Wood started to question the events of 9/11 on that same day when what she saw and heard on television was contradictory and appeared to violate the laws of physics. Since that day she has used her knowledge of engineering mechanics to prove that the collapse of the World Trade Center twin towers could not have happened as the American public was told.


What destroyed World Trade Center buildings #1 & #2?


See a video of the spire vaporizing into dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goGGQhhTcDY

There is a wealth of information here: http://www.drjudywood.com

Could Dr. Steven Jones be misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement with his nano-thermite hypothesis?

This video seems to think so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9Iv_4ZfNI

Please check it out,

-Abe
pookzta
i just added a new video that calls Dr. Jones and the nano-thermite theory into question
Ricochet
Virginia Tech is CIA run.
lunk


Interesting, the spire, is left behind, leans, and,
instead of falling over, collapses straight down,
leaving just dust.
...or vaporizes in the air.

What do we know of, that can vaporize steel?
A laser perhaps, from an orbiting satellite?
That's a guess. We do not know if we have this technology.

We do have nuclear reactors, we know that when a nuclear reaction goes super critical, iron vaporizes, like everything else,
except reflective material,
shiny things, and perhaps stacks of white paper.

The radiated heat can reflect off certain surfaces, and paper is a poor conductor of heat, and unlike a dark surface, a white surface is reflective, too.

Remember all the little pieces of paper in the dust clouds that day, the one thing that was not disintegrated to dust?

So, maybe it is more a question of what we know they have, and did use, versus, what we guess, that they could possible have, and may have used, to bring down the towers.

And how would they cover up, using what we know they do have?
By getting somebody to theorize on what they know, they don't have,
to make us think, that they are even more advanced than we think?

People would be freaked, around the world, if it was known that the suitcase nuke story, all over the media just before 9/11, was the fall back story if something went wrong, in their plane plan excuse, for the collapse (edit added: demolition) of the towers.

Cedar, has a pleasant aroma,
but some wood, just smells funny.
imo.

Perhaps some small fourth generation fission/fusion devices were used,
to take out the core, the residual heat and radiation, vaporized everything above it, for as long as it took the towers to fall, obscured by smoke and dust, and government coverup.

and they probably used thermite as well.
pookzta
QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 1 2010, 09:48 PM) *


Interesting, the spire, is left behind, leans, and,
instead of falling over, collapses straight down,
leaving just dust.
...or vaporizes in the air.

What do we know of, that can vaporize steel?
A laser perhaps, from an orbiting satellite?
That's a guess. We do not know if we have this technology.

We do have nuclear reactors, we know that when a nuclear reaction goes super critical, iron vaporizes, like everything else,
except reflective material,
shiny things, and perhaps stacks of white paper.

The radiated heat can reflect off certain surfaces, and paper is a poor conductor of heat, and unlike a dark surface, a white surface is reflective, too.

Remember all the little pieces of paper in the dust clouds that day, the one thing that was not disintegrated to dust?

So, maybe it is more a question of what we know they have, and did use, versus, what we guess, that they could possible have, and may have used, to bring down the towers.

And how would they cover up, using what we know they do have?
By getting somebody to theorize on what they know, they don't have,
to make us think, that they are even more advanced than we think?

People would be freaked, around the world, if it was known that the suitcase nuke story, all over the media just before 9/11, was the fall back story if something went wrong, in their plane plan excuse, for the collapse (edit added: demolition) of the towers.

Cedar, has a pleasant aroma,
but some wood, just smells funny.
imo.

Perhaps some small fourth generation fission/fusion devices were used,
to take out the core, the residual heat and radiation, vaporized everything above it, for as long as it took the towers to fall, obscured by smoke and dust, and government coverup.

and they probably used thermite as well.



if you check out her website she talks about the Hutchinson Effect which basically is a guy that has learned to tune electromagnetic energy so that it only interacts with specific materials, using Nicholas Tesla technology.

she theorizes that Directed Energy Weapons, possibly HAARP or some other energy weapon, was used to destroy the WTC buildings 1 and 2. Building 7 was different, yet Dr. Jones and his nano-thermite theory treate them all the same.

this might explain why the paper was left. thermite would definitely have burned up the paper. but apparently this process of "dustification" does not generate much heat which is why all the paper was left.

Dustification does not equal Vaporization.

please check out her website for more details, she has lots of evidence.

Dr. Jones seems to be a misinforment that is misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement... at least it appears that way.

-Abe
KP50
Once Dr Judy Wood tried to claim that the molten metal under the towers was not in fact molten, then I threw her into the disinformation basket. This isn't a binary operation, the people who destroyed the towers are allowed to use more than one method, she does not need to try to destroy all other theories so that hers can succeed.

But there is a dedicated band of people who support her, although it could just be the same person with many different forum personas.
pookzta
QUOTE (KP50 @ Mar 2 2010, 12:57 AM) *
Once Dr Judy Wood tried to claim that the molten metal under the towers was not in fact molten, then I threw her into the disinformation basket. This isn't a binary operation, the people who destroyed the towers are allowed to use more than one method, she does not need to try to destroy all other theories so that hers can succeed.

But there is a dedicated band of people who support her, although it could just be the same person with many different forum personas.


but there is very little proof of molten metal... many of the pictures are weak or edited looking, and there are pictures of workers down in the bases of the WTC buildings shortly after the events.

i once was a huge pusher of the molten metal thing, but then I realized I was putting more into the testimonies then was necessary. for example, molten metal could have been present for a few days, but not weeks as the nano-thermite supporters suggest.

also, if nano-thermite was used, u would expect tons and tons of molten steel, and tons of fire damage. there was very little fire damage to the building, tons and tons of paper peices survived, the dust was reportedly cool, and more.

definitely keep an open mind.

i honestly believe Dr. Jones is an operative after reading more of Judy's stuff. after learning about his role in the Cold Fusion / Room Temp Fusion cover up, and after learning that he kicked Judy out of scholars for 9/11 truth because she made a post about there not being any planes...

Dr. Jones's credibility has been called into question, and now I consider Dr. Judy Wood an equally worthy scientist, if not a superior one.

Dr. Jones seems like disinfo.

just my 2 cents anyway

-Abe
KP50
QUOTE (pookzta @ Mar 2 2010, 09:01 PM) *
but there is very little proof of molten metal... many of the pictures are weak or edited looking, and there are pictures of workers down in the bases of the WTC buildings shortly after the events.

i once was a huge pusher of the molten metal thing, but then I realized I was putting more into the testimonies then was necessary. for example, molten metal could have been present for a few days, but not weeks as the nano-thermite supporters suggest.

also, if nano-thermite was used, u would expect tons and tons of molten steel, and tons of fire damage. there was very little fire damage to the building, tons and tons of paper peices survived, the dust was reportedly cool, and more.

definitely keep an open mind.

i honestly believe Dr. Jones is an operative after reading more of Judy's stuff. after learning about his role in the Cold Fusion / Room Temp Fusion cover up, and after learning that he kicked Judy out of scholars for 9/11 truth because she made a post about there not being any planes...

Dr. Jones's credibility has been called into question, and now I consider Dr. Judy Wood an equally worthy scientist, if not a superior one.

Dr. Jones seems like disinfo.

just my 2 cents anyway

-Abe

Do you have to follow anyone? Just assess all the evidence on its own right but don't set up anyone as a hero who will save the day.

There were extraordinary temperatures below ground irrespective of the state of the metal. It points to a cataclysmic event in the basement levels of both towers just prior to collapse - hence the ground shaking. It wasn't any external weapon that caused that event. Once Dr Wood tries to assign every bit of evidence to her view of a beam weapon, trying to dismiss parts that don't fit in, then she is promoting disinformation.
pookzta
QUOTE (KP50 @ Mar 2 2010, 03:32 AM) *
Do you have to follow anyone? Just assess all the evidence on its own right but don't set up anyone as a hero who will save the day.

There were extraordinary temperatures below ground irrespective of the state of the metal. It points to a cataclysmic event in the basement levels of both towers just prior to collapse - hence the ground shaking. It wasn't any external weapon that caused that event. Once Dr Wood tries to assign every bit of evidence to her view of a beam weapon, trying to dismiss parts that don't fit in, then she is promoting disinformation.


that's exactly what I'm doing, is thinking for myself and not following anyone. I will admit, I am using my intellect to analyze evidence that OTHERS have collected since I didnt take photos or walk through ground zero on my own, so that is all i meant by following. I should have meant supporting. The theory which I support the most is the one that Dr. Wood puts forward, as Energy Weapons seem to be the most likely cause of the dustification of the WTC buildings. You should check out her website, there are tons of weird things, such as cars being on fire but paper not catching on fire... office cabinets being mangled and warped yet the papers are unharmed within, giant steel pieces being bent and twisted in mind-bending ways (pun hehe)... very interesting webstie and photographic evidence she has. easy to analyze on your own, no faith necessary. just look at the pics for yourself and see if you draw the same conclusions!


also very important to point out that Dr. Judy Wood is one of the few people that has fired law suits against NIST for their false data and lies. She has filed 3 or so Qui Tam cases against them.

See here: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html

also, she has been the subject of many disinfo attempts. Dr. Steven Jones sent a fellow "Scholar for 9/11 Truth" named Dr. Greg Jenkins to do an ambush interview of Dr. Wood.

Dr. Jenkins showed up with 2 video cameras and lighting to an event that Dr. Wood was only attending, but not speaking at. He ambushed her after the event and convinced her to do an interview. During the interview. Dr. Jenkins took a very particular role of trying to make Dr. Wood look foolish, avoiding her strong points and trying to focus on weak, and often irrelevant, points. It was very weird to see the video.

Here is a video recap of their interview: http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/27626168

(i saw the full, unedited interview, and it was rather lengthy and boring. the video above high lights the most significant moments and questions.)
DoYouEverWonder
QUOTE (pookzta @ Mar 2 2010, 04:50 AM) *
that's exactly what I'm doing, is thinking for myself and not following anyone. I will admit, I am using my intellect to analyze evidence that OTHERS have collected since I didnt take photos or walk through ground zero on my own, so that is all i meant by following. I should have meant supporting. The theory which I support the most is the one that Dr. Wood puts forward, as Energy Weapons seem to be the most likely cause of the dustification of the WTC buildings. You should check out her website, there are tons of weird things, such as cars being on fire but paper not catching on fire... office cabinets being mangled and warped yet the papers are unharmed within, giant steel pieces being bent and twisted in mind-bending ways (pun hehe)... very interesting webstie and photographic evidence she has. easy to analyze on your own, no faith necessary. just look at the pics for yourself and see if you draw the same conclusions!


also very important to point out that Dr. Judy Wood is one of the few people that has fired law suits against NIST for their false data and lies. She has filed 3 or so Qui Tam cases against them.

See here: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html

also, she has been the subject of many disinfo attempts. Dr. Steven Jones sent a fellow "Scholar for 9/11 Truth" named Dr. Greg Jenkins to do an ambush interview of Dr. Wood.

Dr. Jenkins showed up with 2 video cameras and lighting to an event that Dr. Wood was only attending, but not speaking at. He ambushed her after the event and convinced her to do an interview. During the interview. Dr. Jenkins took a very particular role of trying to make Dr. Wood look foolish, avoiding her strong points and trying to focus on weak, and often irrelevant, points. It was very weird to see the video.

Here is a video recap of their interview: http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/27626168

(i saw the full, unedited interview, and it was rather lengthy and boring. the video above high lights the most significant moments and questions.)

I don't think anyone needs to try to make JW look foolish. She does a good enough job on her own.

JW is the type of 'researcher' that comes up with a theory and then makes the evidence fit the theory. That is not good or credible research.

BTW: If anyone got ambushed it was Steven Jones who made the mistake of starting out with Jim Fetzer. When Jones found out where Fetzer was coming from, Jones split from the group and they've been trying to discredit him ever since. Fetzer took JW under his wing and convinced her she was a genius and anyone who didn't see things her way was to be discredited.
pookzta
QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Mar 2 2010, 05:40 AM) *
I don't think anyone needs to try to make JW look foolish. She does a good enough job on her own.

JW is the type of 'researcher' that comes up with a theory and then makes the evidence fit the theory. That is not good or credible research.

BTW: If anyone got ambushed it was Steven Jones who made the mistake of starting out with Jim Fetzer. When Jones found out where Fetzer was coming from, Jones split from the group and they've been trying to discredit him ever since. Fetzer took JW under his wing and convinced her she was a genius and anyone who didn't see things her way was to be discredited.



more evidence that Dr. Judy Wood is legit and Dr. Steven Jones is not.

(also, Judy Wood and Fetzer have parted ways because Judy discovered Fetzer was trying to discredit Hutchinson and his research on elecetromagnetic energy. It seems that Jones and Fetzer both seem hell bent on disproving Wood and trying to divert attention away from her theory about Space Wars directed energy weapons.)

In this video, you will see that Dr. Judy Wood has also filed several legal documents with NIST, called RFC documents, which are "Request For Correction" documents. These documents can be legally filed with NIST as a means to bring false or incorrect data to their attention, and to suggest the correction.

Not only has Judy filed RFC's with NIST to correct their data, but Dr. Steven Jones has NOT filed ANY RFC's with NIST. If Dr. Jones was so confident in his nano-thermite findings, he would definitely have submitted RFC's to NIST so that they could account for the 'new-found nano-thermite'.

The closer I look, the more evidence I see, the more this looks like Dr. Jones is an operative meant to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement down a false path, to prevent us from finding out the truth.

Dr. Judy Wood has already answered 3 of my emails and we are having an indepth discussion, which is something very few 9/11 truth-seeking leaders have ever done with me. She seems very genuine in her question answering, and her encouraging me to think for myself and to look into things for myself.

Here is the video proof discussing how Dr. Wood has filed RFCs with NIST, and how Dr. Jones has not filed any RFCs with NIST: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AGBTuFKxyc
GroundPounder
and then there is always ed ward with elevated tritium levels....
pookzta
Dr. Judy Wood, Ph.D - 'The New Hiroshima' Presentation (Part 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1JFCpFd6CA

Dr. Judy Wood, The Hutchinson Effect, & Focused Electromagnetic Energy (Who Will You Tell?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0EsJhEFz9A

There is a wealth of information here: http://www.drjudywood.com

Also, check out this Alaskan magnometer data. It seems that immediately before the Towers were brought down there was a surge in magnetic (electromagnetic?) activity observed in Alaska. This is where HAARP is located (compare the UT times to the graph, because the graph is in UT time):



WTC1 gets hole 08:46:26 AM 12:46 UT
WTC2 gets hole 09:02:54 AM 13:03 UT
Pentagon Event 09:30-9:40 AM (13:35 UT)
WTC2 goes poof 09:59:04 AM 13:59 UT
Shanksville, PA Event 10:03-10:10 AM (14:05 UT)
WTC1 goes poof 10:28:31 AM 14:29 UT



taken from: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/erin5.html


This definitely appears as though HAARP started warming up before the buildings were hit, and increased in output power, disturbing the Alaskan magnetosphere, at the exact same time that the attacks began, peaking in intensity when the buildings were brought down at 14:00PM UT / 2:00PM UT.

Very interesting stuff...

Lastly, Dr. Judy Wood has had an ongoing law suit with several companies over 9/11. She is suing them for covering up the truth and being involved in 9/11. Her court case has reached the Supreme Court but no one knows about it because the many corrupt insiders within the 9/11 Truth Movement have been trying to suppress it from getting out to the public and have been trying to discredit Dr. Wood. Look:


----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Could Dr. Steven Jones be misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement with his nano-thermite hypothesis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9Iv_4ZfNI

-More info on Dr. Jones and his possible role as a disinformation operative:

1. http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&...uble_with_jones

2. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/cc/CB.html

3. http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/inde...1&Itemid=60

4. http://drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html#Thermite

5. http://drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/JJ7.html


Please check it out,

-Abe
pookzta
ATTENTION MODERATORS: This is very important news! Dr. Judy Wood has already filed several Qui Tam complaints, DQA, and RFC complaints with the justice department! Recently her Qui Tam case was accepted by the Supreme Court! We need to get this information out to the 9/11 Truth Seekers out there, because Dr. Steven Jones is attempting to mislead this movement down a false path, just like he did with Cold Fusion! Please read this and consider it before deleting it! PLEASE! See recent Supreme Court document in this thread. We need to spread the word!

Judy D. Wood is a former professor of mechanical engineering with research interests in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, optical methods, deformation analysis, and the materials characterization of biomaterials and composite materials. She is a member of the Society for Experimental Mechanics (SEM), co-founded SEM’s Biological Systems and Materials Division, and currently serves on the SEM Composite Materials Technical Division.



Dr. Wood received her

B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering),
M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and
Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia.
Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental method to measure thermal stresses in bimaterial joints. She has taught courses including
Experimental Stress Analysis,
Engineering Mechanics,
Mechanics of Materials (Strength of Materials)
Strength of Materials Testing
Is this what Eisenhower warned us of?


Figure 1. My intellectual integrity prevents me from calling this a collapse. This is why I have chosen to stand up. My conscience leaves me no other choice.


From 1999 to 2006 Dr. Wood has been an assistant professor in the Mechanical Engineering Department at Clemson University in Clemson, South Carolina. Before moving to Clemson she spent three years as a postdoctoral research associate in the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Tech.
One of Dr. Wood's research interests is biomimicry, or applying the mechanical structures of biological materials to engineering design using engineering materials. Other recent research has investigated the deformation behavior of materials and structures with complex geometries and complex material properties, such as fiber-reinforced composite materials and biological materials. Dr. Wood is an expert in the use of moiré interferometry, a full-field optical method that is used in stress analysis, as well as materials characterization and other types of interference. In recent years, Dr. Wood and her students have developed optical systems with various wavelengths and waveguides. Dr. Wood has over 60 technical publications in refereed journals, conference proceedings, and edited monographs and special technical reports.

Dr. Wood started to question the events of 9/11 on that same day when what she saw and heard on television was contradictory and appeared to violate the laws of physics. Since that day she has used her knowledge of engineering mechanics to prove that the collapse of the World Trade Center twin towers could not have happened as the American public was told.


What destroyed World Trade Center buildings #1 & #2?


See a video of the spire vaporizing into dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goGGQhhTcDY

Dr. Judy Wood, Ph.D - 'The New Hiroshima' Presentation (Part 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1JFCpFd6CA

Dr. Judy Wood, The Hutchinson Effect, & Focused Electromagnetic Energy (Who Will You Tell?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0EsJhEFz9A

There is a wealth of information here: http://www.drjudywood.com

Also, check out this Alaskan magnometer data. It seems that immediately before the Towers were brought down there was a surge in magnetic (electromagnetic?) activity observed in Alaska. This is where HAARP is located (compare the UT times to the graph, because the graph is in UT time):



WTC1 gets hole 08:46:26 AM 12:46 UT
WTC2 gets hole 09:02:54 AM 13:03 UT
Pentagon Event 09:30-9:40 AM (13:35 UT)
WTC2 goes poof 09:59:04 AM 13:59 UT
Shanksville, PA Event 10:03-10:10 AM (14:05 UT)
WTC1 goes poof 10:28:31 AM 14:29 UT



taken from: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/erin5.html


This definitely appears as though HAARP started warming up before the buildings were hit, and increased in output power, disturbing the Alaskan magnetosphere, at the exact same time that the attacks began, peaking in intensity when the buildings were brought down at 14:00PM UT / 2:00PM UT.

Very interesting stuff...

Lastly, Dr. Judy Wood has had an ongoing law suit with several companies over 9/11. She is suing them for covering up the truth and being involved in 9/11. Her court case has reached the Supreme Court but no one knows about it because the many corrupt insiders within the 9/11 Truth Movement have been trying to suppress it from getting out to the public and have been trying to discredit Dr. Wood. Look:


----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Could Dr. Steven Jones be misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement with his nano-thermite hypothesis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9Iv_4ZfNI

-More info on Dr. Jones and his possible role as a disinformation operative:

1. http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&...uble_with_jones

2. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/cc/CB.html

3. http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/inde...1&Itemid=60

4. http://drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html#Thermite

5. http://drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/JJ7.html


Please check it out,

-Abe
amazed!
About a month ago I called an attorney whose name and phone were listed on the court document in the Qui Tam action by Wood. He informed me that the action is now over, no joy.
pookzta
QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 3 2010, 09:00 AM) *
About a month ago I called an attorney whose name and phone were listed on the court document in the Qui Tam action by Wood. He informed me that the action is now over, no joy.


perhaps the case was shot down?
DoYouEverWonder
QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 3 2010, 10:00 AM) *
About a month ago I called an attorney whose name and phone were listed on the court document in the Qui Tam action by Wood. He informed me that the action is now over, no joy.

It's very similar to the case that Bev Harris filed against Diebold and is mainly used when someone wants to make some money, which Bev did. It's not the kind of case that would ever result in anyone getting criminally charged or to be the road to a real investigation.
KP50
Pookzta,

You seem to be missing my main point - the below ground temperatures were extraordinary under all 3 buildings, this is well documented. By claiming this is disinformation, she is running with the debunkers. It is incredibly hard to account for all of the events at the WTC with just one type of destructive process and if you go down the Dr JW route, you are left with no planes and a magical beam weapon. Try running with that and see how far you get.
GroundPounder
QUOTE (KP50 @ Mar 1 2010, 10:56 PM) *
It is incredibly hard to account for all of the events at the WTC with just one type of destructive process


agreed. did i mention the elevated tritium levels smile.gif
SanderO
A single event to destroy the towers would be something like a massive bomb which contained all the energy to blast enough of the structure to have what remained above to topple down in a gravity driven collapse.

The twins did not have a single event lower down and a single gravity driven collapse. There were multiple events in their destruction. WTC 7 might have a single event, lower down which destroyed 8 stories of the core and the top section dropped down and the perimeter followed by a small fraction of a second and fell inward.

The twins most likely had a series of large "explosive" events as well as smaller high energy events which weakened parts of the structure and coupled with explosives destroyed the structural integrity locally and allowed the blast wave to break large sections of the facade apart and topple over away from the towers. The multiple events can be seen in the *branches* of the explosive plume - each one being a distinct event.

The explosions in the south tower did not have enough energy to blast parts of it into the north tower. The facade of the north tower was undamaged by the south tower coming down from whatever explosive and incendiaries were used to destroy the south tower.

It's likely that the facade acted like a membrane though made up of staggered 10x36 panels which were supported on each side by 19 massive "tree columns. The facade membrane acted like a blast curtain absorbing the energy of the explosions in the core. The corners were freed with incendiaries and explosives to that the square tube became 4 separated tall panels made up of the prefabricated panels. The floors slabs held them up and resisted lateral forces (wind loads). But when they were destroyed the core blast shock waves were transmitted through the floor slabs which did two things - they pulverized then powder as the were forced into the inside of the facade membrane. This busted the facade membrane and pushed it out and over without the corners to even hold it up. The house of "cards" fell out.

The core structure was blasted and burned apart at various heights. The cutters probably were set off all at the same time and several explosions were set off to prepare for the final series of larger core explosions at multiple floors beginning at the crash site. The were probably set at 5 or so elevations in the building and went off simultaneously in a vertical stacked series of "typical" CDs of the core perimeter. With that destroyed the floors had no interior support at the core and were blasted out toward the membrane. Most of this was concealed by the first large explosion at the crash site after the first CD sequence of the top was complete.

Finally laterally unsupported core sections were too tall to stand, but with little lateral forces on them and with their seats probably cut at angles they slipped and then gravity collapsed them down.
tumetuestumefaisdubien
QUOTE (pookzta @ Feb 28 2010, 06:01 AM) *
Dr. Jones's credibility has been called into question, and now I consider Dr. Judy Wood an equally worthy scientist, if not a superior one.


QUOTE
Dr. Jones seems like disinfo.

pookzta seems like disinfo. thumbdown.gif

I would recommend to stick with real science:
http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p2.html
pookzta
last night I messaged over 100 different leaders from 9/11 Truth organizations all over the world, most from the USA but many international ones as well, and Dr. Wood has received a huge flood of email inquiries asking about her work and wondering more about it, and I have received many odd replies, some positive and some negative...

...but here is the crazy part...

one of the people I emailed about Dr. Wood was Richard Gage and his Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth organization, and not only did he not reply to me, but he removed me from the petition signers list! I have donated over $100 dollars to them and promoted him so heavily because I always assumed he was actually pursuing truth and not misleading us, but after seeing that simply asking him a question about Dr. Judy Wood has caused him to remove me from the petition signers list, I believe more than ever that Dr. Judy Wood is on to something. Why else would Richard Gage remove me from the petition signers list just for asking him to consider looking at the research of Dr. Judy Wood?

Dr. Wood even predicted that I would be "black listed" by the false leaders of the 9/11 Truth Movement like Richard Gage and Dr. Steven Jones if I contacted them about her...

Crazy times we live in! smile.gif

-Abe
DoYouEverWonder
QUOTE (pookzta @ Mar 4 2010, 12:19 PM) *
last night I messaged over 100 different leaders from 9/11 Truth organizations all over the world, most from the USA but many international ones as well, and Dr. Wood has received a huge flood of email inquiries asking about her work and wondering more about it, and I have received many odd replies, some positive and some negative...

...but here is the crazy part...

one of the people I emailed about Dr. Wood was Richard Gage and his Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth organization, and not only did he not reply to me, but he removed me from the petition signers list! I have donated over $100 dollars to them and promoted him so heavily because I always assumed he was actually pursuing truth and not misleading us, but after seeing that simply asking him a question about Dr. Judy Wood has caused him to remove me from the petition signers list, I believe more than ever that Dr. Judy Wood is on to something. Why else would Richard Gage remove me from the petition signers list just for asking him to consider looking at the research of Dr. Judy Wood?

Dr. Wood even predicted that I would be "black listed" by the false leaders of the 9/11 Truth Movement like Richard Gage and Dr. Steven Jones if I contacted them about her...

Crazy times we live in! smile.gif

-Abe

If you guys did real research, then you wouldn't have to complain about being marginalized.

But instead of focusing on the evidence, it's all about one person who according to her devotees is the only one who is right and everyone else is disinfo. Sorry, it gets real old after awhile.

Why the sudden push to flood forums with these attacks on Steven Jones? No one's buying it.

If you want JW's work to be taken seriously, then present the evidence, make your case and stop ATTACKING everyone else.
GroundPounder
QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Mar 2 2010, 05:57 PM) *
If you want JW's work to be taken seriously, then present the evidence, make your case and stop ATTACKING everyone else.


agreed!
mrodway
Is there any evidence that she didn't just get her degrees from HP University (Out of a laser printer)?
pookzta
hey guys, just wanted to tell you that you can observe some amazing videos and documentaries about The Hutchison Effect and other related subjects at my recently created YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/pookzta

there are tons of videos so feel free to check them out if this stuff interests you at all.

here is a more recent video of Mr. Hutchison distorting a block of iron (using energy): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBdhsXl088
pookzta
Dear Fellow 9/11 Truth Supporter,

My name is Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez, and I am a medical student. Throughout my rigorous undergraduate science and medical science coursework, I have had the privilege of receiving extensive training in the process of scientific analysis and evidence-based thinking.

I am writing to you today not only as a medical student, but also as a concerned American citizen, to ask for your help with something very important.

Have you heard of Dr. Judy Wood? Did you know she has been researching 9/11 since 2001 and has already filed several law suits against NIST’s contractors for science fraud and requests that NIST’s false data gets reexamined? Surprisingly, Dr. Steven Jones has not supported Dr. Wood’s legal attempts to push for 9/11 Truth. Dr. Judy Wood has received more than one threat due to the research she has done and the evidence she has gathered, and one of her students was also murdered in 2006. In contrast, Dr. Steven Jones has not filed any such law suits, nor has he filed his nano-thermite findings with Congress or NIST.

I. Dr. Judy Wood has already filed several law suits against NIST’s contractors, some of whom are military / defense / weapons organizations, in 2007. The basis for this was Data Quality Analysis (DQA), Request For Correction (RFC), and Qui Tam (whistle-blower) cases. She is actively pursuing 9/11 Truth with her lawyer, despite the lack of support she has received from Dr. Jones and his followers. One of the many reasons I believe that Dr. Jones may be misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement is because Dr. Jones has not filed his nano-thermite findings with NIST or with Congress, when he should have done so long ago if he truly wished to further the 9/11 Truth Movement. The many legal documents Dr. Judy Wood has filed in her pursuit of 9/11 Truth can be observed here:

1. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html
2. http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.shtml

II. Dr. Judy Wood was once a highly involved member of Dr. Jones’s group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, but Dr. Jones suddenly expelled her from the group a while ago, simply because he disagreed with her conclusion that some form of Directed Energy Weapon was used to demolish the World Trade Center buildings. Dr. Wood has gathered overwhelming evidence suggesting that a Directed Energy Weapon of some kind was used to vaporize (‘dustify’) the primary steel and concrete portions of the buildings into dust, while leaving paper, aluminum, and many other materials completely unharmed. She has collected an overwhelming amount of photographic evidence which led to this conclusion, yet Dr. Jones disagrees with her so strongly that he decided to ban her from the group.

III. It is important to consider the fact that Dr. Wood has actively been taking legal steps and scientific steps to pursue 9/11 Truth, yet Dr. Jones has banned her from his Scholars for 9/11 Truth group and has not supported her costly legal efforts to bring about a new 9/11 investigation. They both should be working together, but instead, Dr. Jones speaks negatively of Dr. Wood because he disagrees with her conclusions, even though her conclusions are strongly supported by evidence.

IV. After reviewing this evidence, it seems very possible to me that Dr. Steven Jones is pushing the nano-thermite theory to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement down a false path to prevent us from finding out the true criminals behind 9/11, and the true cause of 9/11, which is related to Cold Fusion, Free Energy, and Directed Energy Weapons. Yes, the nano-thermite theory does account for some of the evidence, but it most certainly does not account for all of it.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin

V. Please thoroughly review the following information with an open-mind, for it seems as though we need to examine Dr. Jones’s motivations and figure out why Dr. Jones kicked Dr. Wood out of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth group a while ago, rather than collaborating with her to pursue 9/11 Truth. Please read this information thoroughly, for it is very, very important.

VI. Dr. Judy Wood received her B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering), M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia. Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental method to measure thermal stresses in bi-material joints. She has taught courses including: Experimental Stress Analysis, Engineering Mechanics, Mechanics of Materials (Strength of Materials), Strength of Materials Testing.

1. Dr. Judy Wood, Ph.D - 'The New Hiroshima' Presentation (Part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1JFCpFd6CA
2. Dr. Judy Wood’s website: http://www.drjudywood.com

VII. Here are some very informative videos discussing the reality of The Hutchison Effect and other suppressed technologies, such as Cold Fusion, & Anti-Gravity, and Military Energy Weapon Technology:

1. John Hutchison & The Hutchison Effect (Documentary | 68mins): http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...006842090712676
2. Cold Fusion Is Real (Documentary | 45mins) : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6562030534380820378
3. Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist of Lockheed Martin, on The Hutchison Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZKTA7nx8U
4. Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist of Lockheed Martin, on Anti-Gravity Technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNesaRUoJo
5. Colonel Tom Bearden on Military Energy Weapon Technology (1985) similar to The Hutchison Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MovpYUD7fTY

VIII. Please review the following evidence regarding Dr. Steven Jones, so that you can become familiar with all of the evidence that has led myself, and many others, to conclude that Dr. Steven Jones is purposely misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement. First he interfered with the Cold Fusion / Free Energy movement, and now it seems he is interfering with the 9/11 Truth Movement. Please review these links thoroughly, and with an open-mind, before drawing any conclusions:

1. ‘Hoax exposes incompetence or worse at a Bentham Open Access journal’: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2009/06...r-worse-at.html
2. ‘Bentham Open editor-in-chief resigns after fake paper is accepted for publication’: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2009/06...ors-resign.html
3. ‘A Peer-review of Dr. Jones’s Research’: http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&...uble_with_jones
4. ‘The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis’: http://drjudywood.com/articles/scientific/...ificMethod.html
5. ‘Steven Jones' Contributions to Science, Humanity and the Planet’: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/cc/CB.html
6. ‘WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?’ http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/inde...1&Itemid=60
7. ‘Thermite and Glowing Liquid Aluminum’ http://drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html#Thermite
8. ‘Steven Jones, Cold Fusion, & Free Energy’: http://drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/JJ7.html
9. ‘Steven Jones and the WTC “Spire” video’ (2min 35sec): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9Iv_4ZfNI
10. ‘No Thermite Used on 9/11’ by Andrew Johnson: http://911thermitefree.blogspot.com/
11. ‘Steven Jones helped cover up Cold Fusion, and now 9/11 Truth’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lASyX1SP2UM

IX. Here are some important questions to ask ourselves when comparing the conclusions of Dr. Steve Jones and Dr. Judy Wood:

• How come steel and concrete were pulverized, aluminum had electrical burns, but paper was unharmed? Nano-thermite and heat do not selectively damage certain materials, so how come thousands and thousands of paper sheets were completely unharmed?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come there are many reports of power outages and electrical failures in the areas surrounding ground zero during the attacks?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, where is all the molten steel? Thousands of pictures, yet not a single one shows large quantities of molten steel?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come the resulting steel and concrete dust clouds were not hot enough to burn the people it coated nor to set adjacent buildings on fire?
• If thermite alone caused the ‘collapses’, how come there was significant magnetosphere readings in Alaska at the very same time of the 9/11 attacks?
• Why was the Alaskan magnetosphere normal until immediately before and during the 9/11 attacks, when there was suddenly a huge surge in electromagnetic activity?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero experienced metal warping and electricity-like burns and holes during the attacks, even though they were not exposed to thermite?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero were flipped upside down or on their side?
• How come Dr. Wood has already filed several legal cases against suspected 9/11-involved defense and weapons companies and NIST, yet Dr. Jones has not?
• How come Dr. Wood has already been taking legal steps towards demanding a new 9/11 investigation, yet Dr. Jones does not support her legal efforts?
• How come Dr. Jones has not officially filed or shared his nano-thermite evidence with Congress, NIST, or any official governmental body? Why the delay?
• Why is Dr. Jones just now claiming to be “pursuing a new 9/11 investigation” when Dr. Judy Wood has already filed many legal cases to pursue such an investigation, one which made it to the Supreme Court?
• Why isn’t Dr. Jones and his affiliates supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal efforts to pursue 9/11 Truth, regardless of whether or not they agree on a theory?
• Why did Dr. Jones ban Dr. Wood from his ‘Scholars for 9/11 Truth’ group just because they had different conclusions about what destroyed the towers?
• Shouldn’t we all be supporting the 9/11 investigation that Dr. Judy Wood has already demanded with her legal cases, even if we do not agree with her conclusions?
• Why was I removed from the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition simply for asking Richard Gage to examine the research of Dr. Judy Wood?
• I have donated over $100 to AE911Truth, so why was I silently removed from the petition simply for bringing up Dr. Judy Wood to Richard Gage?
• Why did United States Army Major Doug Rokke spontaneously contact me to try and convince me to stop talking about Dr. Judy Wood and Energy Weapons?

X. In my opinion, either Dr. Steven Jones is lying, or Dr. Judy Wood is lying. One of them is misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement, and the evidence strongly points to Dr. Steven Jones. After thoroughly researching both of their stories and all of the evidence presented by both parties, I honestly believe that it is most likely Dr. Jones that is lying, and that he is using his fame and credentials to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement in the wrong direction to prevent us from supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal actions and taking legal action of our own, to ultimately prevent us from finding out the true cause of 9/11 and the true criminals responsible for the attacks.

XI. Also, I should let you know that I recently messaged Richard Gage and AE911Truth to ask him to contact Dr. Judy Wood, and as a result, I have been removed from the Petition Signers list on AE911Truth.org, despite the fact that I have donated over $100 dollars to Richard Gage and his organization over the past several months. As of the morning of March 4th, my name was removed from the AE911Truth petition, so it appears that I have been removed from the petition simply for asking about Dr. Judy Wood. This is very concerning, because I have not done anything wrong by asking Richard Gage to talk to Dr. Judy Wood and consider her research, yet AE911Truth.org has removed me from their petition simply for asking about her once in a private email. In addition, Richard Gage has never replied to any of my emails over the past several months, not even one of them, but Dr. Judy Wood has responded to several of my emails in just the last week. Oddly enough, Dr. Wood predicted that Richard Gage and Dr. Jones would ‘blacklist’ me for mentioning her, and she was right.

XII. Lastly, but most importantly, Major Doug Rokke from the U.S. Army contacted me recently and is trying to convince me that only nano-thermite or other explosives were used on 9/11, but NOT energy weapons. He refuses to acknowledge the existence of highly-advanced Energy Weapon Technology, other than lasers, that are possessed by the military-industrial complex. He does not want to meet with me in public, but insists that I come meet him at his private dwelling just outside of Urbana-Champaign. He has contacted me because I have recently been spreading information about Dr. Wood, and he insists that we meet in “private” so he can “show me something” related to proving that nano-thermite or other explosives were used on the WTC buildings, but not energy weapons. I’m not going to meet with him, because I asked Dr. Wood about him and apparently he is trying to cover up her work. Major Doug Rokke attended one of Dr. Judy Wood’s “New Hiroshima” presentations, and he sat in the front rows and repeatedly attempted to disrupt her, interrupt her, and yell unprofessional statements throughout her lecture to try and discredit her research. This is one reason I am not meeting with him. Another reason I am not meeting with him is because I recently contacted one of my Deans that I trust, and she said that Major Doug Rokke was fired from the University of Illinois a long time ago for claiming he was a professor, when in fact he is not. Apparently he has a long history of lies and deceit, so my Dean strongly suggested that I do not meet with him, and she is already making some calls about him given this recent information.

I strongly support the 9/11 Truth Movement as a whole and I definitely think we all need to work together to share ideas and information, so I truly hope that you will consider collaborating with Dr. Judy Wood in addition to Dr. Steven Jones, so we can all work together to bring about real 9/11 truth and justice. Even if Dr. Wood’s conclusions do not resonate with you, we are all still pursuing truth and justice regarding 9/11, and therefore we need to work together. It is very concerning to me that Dr. Jones has chosen to outcast Dr. Wood simply because he does not agree with her conclusions, when he should be supporting her many legal cases. If Dr. Jones is indeed misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement, he needs to be exposed so that this movement can continue to make progress and move forward.

Please let me know how what you think about all this.

Thank you for your time, consideration, and help,

-Abe

Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M1 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology
kawika
I strongly urge you to meet with him and find out what thermite evidence he has to share. Take a freind with you and make a video or at least audio. Where are we going if we won't continue to gather information?
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