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lunk
...more about standing eggs.

apparently every year on the vernal equinox,
people all over China traditionally balance eggs on their tips.

i've been trying to figure out if this is an annual phenomena or just a property of eggs, that can happen anytime of year.

i tried to balance a couple of eggs this morning,
i couldn't get either to stand on end,

so i ate them.
Tamborine man
Talking about eggs,

reminds me about the form of the Universe,
before it became occupied with diverse 3-D
visible things.

Again the transcendental world gives us the
answer, and i don't mind this a single bit!

Here's the question asked by humans, and
the answer:

".......
On page 3, the Book stated: “In the Darkness was Light, in the Light were Thought and Will. But the Thought and the Will were not in the Darkness.” How should we
understand this? If the Light is in the Darkness and Thought and Will are in the Light, must they not also be in the Darkness?

......."

No! At the time referred to on page 3 Thought and Will were only in the Light but not in the Darkness.

It is clearly stated on page 160: “This description of the state of inactivity and the struggle of Light, Darkness, Thought and Will must be understood in the abstract—not subject to
interpretation in terms of earthly concepts of space, measure, time, and so forth.” Since it appears difficult for many to understand that primal Thought and primal Will were only in
the Light and not in the Darkness, a further explanation will be given, based on conditions known on Earth, though such should be unnecessary. Anyone familiar with abstractions
should be able to understand the original description.

Thus, Darkness, Light, Thought and Will should be understood as the then existing primal cosmos, the basis for the present cosmos. In order to illustrate the appearance of primal
cosmos in earthly terms, one can think of a fruit, an apple for example, since the shape and inner structure of that fruit conform approximately to the shape and structure of the
primal cosmos.

The apple ............................... represents primal cosmos.

The skin and meat of the apple ......... represents Darkness.

The core .............................................. represents Light.

The seeds ............................. represent Thought and Will.

_______________

We all know the apple seeds are in the core, so no one would say they are in the meat or the skin. And so it was with Thought and Will (the seeds). They were in the Light (the core),
but not in the Darkness (the meat and skin of the apple).

One can rightfully say, then, that Thought and Will were in the primal cosmos. This cannot be disputed. Similarly, one can rightfully say the fruit seeds are in the apple. Neither can this
be disputed.
The error made by many in their perception of the message given on page 3 in 'the book' stems from the fact that these people have not understood that Darkness, Light, Thought
and Will together constituted the primal cosmos.
......."


So the egg became the apple. The apple became the Supercircle. The Supercircle became your egg.

And now it all makes perfect sense.

The Supercircle IS the "Child".

Cheers
lunk
Thought, and will, take time.
Also light, needs time to travel.

So space without time,
would be in darkness.

And as time, is the fourth dimension,
it must be the creation of volumes, of space...
if,
2 points make a line,
3 lines make a plain,
4 plains make a volume, then,
5 volumes of space, should make a time.
6 times, should make a fifth dimension.

...and this progression should go on forever.

(Edit), added

When we plan to build a 3 dimensional building, we usually
first draw it out in 2 dimensions, on paper.

Could this 4D universe, be the drawing board
for building something in the higher dimensions?
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 12 2010, 12:38 PM) *
When we plan to build a 3 dimensional building, we usually
first draw it out in 2 dimensions, on paper.

Could this 4D universe, be the drawing board
for building something in the higher dimensions?



No Lunk.

What you draw in the 4D world can only be built there,
and what you draw in the 5D world can only be built there, etc..

But there's nothing to stop something been drawn and built in a
higher dimension to be duplicated in a lower one.

The 10th dimension is the highest that exist, when it comes to
what can be built, and the 3D is of course the lowest!

"Matter" in the 4D world has no space filling properties in the 3D,
and 'matter' in the 5D world has no space filling properties in the 4D,
and so forth!

Cheers
lunk
i'm still trying to get my head around the idea of the fifth dimension.

As we live in the 3 dimensional world, through time.
And at least, theoretically, time is determined by 5 volumes of tetrahedral shaped metric space,
how small is one volume of space,
in our universe?

You see, time, is the next dimension after the 3D world,
through which all time-based interactions are possible.
And it is constructed from 5 volumes of space.

curious,
that we have 5 digits on each hand.
And it is the 5th, the opposing thumb,
that makes it possible to grasp things.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 12 2010, 03:22 PM) *
i'm still trying to get my head around the idea of the fifth dimension.

As we live in the 3 dimensional world, through time.
And at least, theoretically, time is determined by 5 volumes of tetrahedral shaped metric space,
how small is one volume of space,
in our universe?

You see, time, is the next dimension after the 3D world,
through which all time-based interactions are possible.
And it is constructed from 5 volumes of space.


Actually, it's not 'time' which determine the various dimensions,
but instead the size of particles as they become smaller and smaller,
and thus their speed of vibration increases proportionally.

The transcendental spheres or habitats are as visible and material to
spiritual beings as everything on Earth is to human beings.

The higher the spirits advance the higher will be the ether-vibrations
that constitute the substance of which each separate dimension or
world is created.

Lunk, i find it a bit uncomfortable to give you this information, as you
can obtain the same knowledge by your own effort for simply studying
the same material as i have done.
This will set us on par, and you'll feel much better because of it!

It's a different matter with the Great Pyramid, for in this case it is
totally new information not existing anywhere else on Earth.
So on this topic you're very welcome to comment, and i'll do the utmost
to provide further information to the best of my knowledge in this field.

Cheers
lunk
It's OK,

i seem to be paralleling on Euclids' Elements from the ground up, too.

http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elem...ookI/bookI.html

in a way, that has not quite, been looked at before, i think.

We exist in a body, of volume, in a universe of volume,
in time.
Life after death,
implies that we also exist without the body,
and universe(?).

i have no recolection of anything before the beginning of my existance, however i have noticed that i have inherent abilities,
that others somehow lack,
...and lack a lot of abilities that many others take for granted.
i'm not talking about physical disabilities,
but more like capabilities,
i guess i would call them natural,
rather than learn-ed.

Some have the gift of the gab,
some are good at untangling knots,
that sort of thing.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 13 2010, 02:57 AM) *
It's OK,

1) i seem to be paralleling on Euclids' Elements from the ground up, too.

http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elem...ookI/bookI.html

in a way, that has not quite, been looked at before, i think.

2) We exist in a body, of volume, in a universe of volume,
in time.
Life after death,
implies that we also exist without the body,
and universe(?).

3) i have no recolection of anything before the beginning of my existance, however i have noticed that i have inherent abilities,
that others somehow lack,
...and lack a lot of abilities that many others take for granted.
i'm not talking about physical disabilities,
but more like capabilities,
i guess i would call them natural,
rather than learn-ed.

Some have the gift of the gab,
some are good at untangling knots,
that sort of thing.



1) Euclid's definitions no. 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, needs to be redefined dramatically.
(Ref. to the new axiom in previous post).

2) The astral counterpart takes the exact shape of the physical body, and it is
this body you carry on in when you leave after the end of earth life.
(Please learn more about this fact by follow your nose!)

3) Please learn more about why that is, by pressing on!

Please Lunk, all these answers is right in front of you. Check it out at least.
You got a free will to reject anything you dislike or do not approve of, so you
really got nothing to lose.

I would dearly love to hear your views about the transcendental sides
description of the form of the true universe; as it differs considerably from the
'picture' astronomers has been trying to 'paint' in this, and last century!

This again could therefore lead to another drawing that would help you to
better understand the description given!

Cheers
lunk
QUOTE (Tamborine man @ May 15 2010, 05:10 AM) *
1) Euclid's definitions no. 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, needs to be redefined dramatically.
(Ref. to the new axiom in previous post).

2) The astral counterpart takes the exact shape of the physical body, and it is
this body you carry on in when you leave after the end of earth life.
(Please learn more about this fact by follow your nose!)

3) Please learn more about why that is, by pressing on!

Please Lunk, all these answers is right in front of you. Check it out at least.
You got a free will to reject anything you dislike or do not approve of, so you
really got nothing to lose.

I would dearly love to hear your views about the transcendental sides
description of the form of the true universe; as it differs considerably from the
'picture' astronomers has been trying to 'paint' in this, and last century!

This again could therefore lead to another drawing that would help you to
better understand the description given!

Cheers


Yes, back to the third density.
That's an interesting way of describing dimensions.
but it implies that all dimensions have volumes.

It is only in theory that a point, line, and plain, have no volume,
by definition they are too small to exist in the universe.
Yet, they are the fundamental constructs of our understanding of the universe.

In reality the sun could be a point, if seen from far enough away.
So that should mean a point could also be as big as a sun, or bigger, depending on what scale of magnitude it is viewed from.

There was a video made a long time ago called, Cosmic Zoom.
It zoomed out to the farthest reaches of space to the smallest
space in the atom.
The thing is is that the zoom stops at those limits.
One could see that the universe was contained by a maximum and minimum size, relative to our size.

i think that things beyond these limits must exist,
for the universe to exist.
There can be no limit to how small things got,
or how big things are, accept in this universe, because everything that exists, in this universe must be of a size that can directly interact with other things in it, to know of it.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 13 2010, 03:06 PM) *
Yes, back to the third density.
That's an interesting way of describing dimensions.
but it implies that all dimensions have volumes.

It is only in theory that a point, line, and plain, have no volume,
by definition they are too small to exist in the universe.
Yet, they are the fundamental constructs of our understanding of the universe.

In reality the sun could be a point, if seen from far enough away.
So that should mean a point could also be as big as a sun, or bigger, depending on what scale of magnitude it is viewed from.

There was a video made a long time ago called, Cosmic Zoom.
It zoomed out to the farthest reaches of space to the smallest
space in the atom.
The thing is is that the zoom stops at those limits.
One could see that the universe was contained by a maximum and minimum size, relative to our size.

i think that things beyond these limits must exist,
for the universe to exist.
There can be no limit to how small things got,
or how big things are, accept in this universe, because everything that exists, in this universe must be of a size that can directly interact with other things in it, to know of it.



Yes, back to the Eye.

And yes, all dimensions have volume. Basically in the same way the Earth has.

The interesting thing about the 'eye' is that it doesn't give a shite about how big
the individual is, for it simply just see's what it see's!

Because of this wonderful thing we can then scale down whatever we want, and
at the same time scale anything up at the same time to whatever we want.

To prove this, let us scale down the distance between the Earth and the Sun, and
see what happens.

Imagine a soccer field 77 meters long from goal post to goal post.
this would represent the distance between the earth and the Sun in scale
1 : 2.000.000.000.
On a string you now suspend a round ball with dia. 700mm from under one of the
goals, representing the Sun. And you again suspend a little ball with dia. 6.36mm
or 1/4" from under the other goal, representing the Earth.
You now go up on the stands and sit yourself down exactly 77 meters from the Sun
and 77 meters from the Earth, thereby creating a equilateral triangle between the
3 of you.
In this scale of things you now see exactly the size of the Sun as you would if you
would view it from the surface of the Earth. When you look at the Earth, you'll see
this little tiny thing 1/4" dia. exactly in the same way you would, if you viewed it
from the surface of the Sun. (You would probably have great difficulty to even see
the 'Earth' with your eyes from this distance without the help of binoculars!)

In this scenario you would be approx. 3.600.000 meters tall! And it wouldn't really
matter a thing. You'll still 'see' what you 'see'.

As a little curiosity, and assuming you live in Montreal, and the 'soccerfield' is in the
middle of this city, then to imagine how far a light-year is away from where you're
sitting going south, you'll find the end of this distance somewhere in Columbia in
the north of South America, or a little over 4733 kilometers away from your seat,
"between the Earth and the Sun"!

So let's never underestimate the importance of our small little round things called
'eyes' .......ever!

This could again lead us to a new understanding of our Universe - if you like!!

Cheers
lunk
Distance is not a factor in focus, with the pin-hole camera!

Everything from the closest blade of grass,
to the moon, is perfectly in focus at the same time,
in the same picture.

A pin-hole camera is a point that light is inverted through,
upside down and backwards.

The eye is a lens, so it has a focal length,
that must be adjusted to see things at different distances,
in focus,
...upside down and backwards.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 14 2010, 02:10 PM) *
Distance is not a factor in focus, with the pin-hole camera!

Everything from the closest blade of grass,
to the moon, is perfectly in focus at the same time,
in the same picture.

A pin-hole camera is a point that light is inverted through,
upside down and backwards.

The eye is a lens, so it has a focal length,
that must be adjusted to see things at different distances,
in focus,
...upside down and backwards.



Lunk, you're right of course.

Lets get rid of our glasses, and instead look at the world

and cosmos through the pin-hole camera.

That way we will see everything upside down and backwards.

Whenever we do it the other way around, we get everything

wrong.

But by doing it your way, mankind, humankind, will for the first

time in its history get things right. cheers.gif

and cheers again
lunk
If everything in the universe was in focus, from a single monocular view-point.
There would be no perceivable distance, only size.

The universe would look like a flat tv screen,
in every direction.

We have two eyes, so we can triangulate, close distances.
But everything far away does look a little second density-ish.

(edit) added

And we see the surface of the wall as a second density too,
but when we magnify into it, it becomes a structure with depth,
and emptiness.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 15 2010, 11:04 AM) *
If everything in the universe was in focus, from a single monocular view-point.
There would be no perceivable distance, only size.

We have two eyes, so we can triangulate, close distances.
But everything far away does look a little second density-ish.



Well, talking about focus, then i know for a fact that many people
actually "focus" better, by closing their eyes and look indwards!

Many even get 'indsight' this way. Distance and size disappears.
It's really a far different world than the one, one is used to look at.

And talking about triangles, here's a drawing showing another version
of a "Sri Yantra", done without any embellishments.

Herein it is the Great Pyramid of Giza that determine the other triangles.
In the center one see 'the many-radiant starsun of Rha' beaming out to
everyone!

Some would focus on the center, meditate, and gain even greater indsight.

Others would do no such thing.

Indeed, it's truly a strange world we live in!





Cheers

PS!
By the way, please keep in mind that 'The many-radiant starsun of Rha'
predates The Great Pyramid by at least 5000 years!
lunk
From my understanding, the point-up triangle represents the male,
and the down-pointed triangle is the female.
Their overlap is the synthesis, of the two.

That is where you find the "eye"? "i"?

Funny how they sound the same.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 17 2010, 10:43 AM) *
From my understanding, the point-up triangle represents the male,
and the down-pointed triangle is the female.
Their overlap is the synthesis, of the two.

That is where you find the "eye"? "i"?

Funny how they sound the same.



Yes, but they only sound the same in english only, or perhaps 'swahili' too,
but thats all.

In danish the words are 'øje' og 'jeg', which doesn't sound the same - as
you will hear it if you meet a dane!

But nevertheless, the two words certainly has something in common, for
in reality both of them can be termed either 'sex-less' and 'gender-less'.

To symbolically distinguish between the male and the female princip, use
the square or pentagon form or the number 5 for the masculine aspect,
and the circle or hexagon form or the number 6 for the feminine aspect.

The triangle as symbol encompass both male and female.

Cheers
lunk
QUOTE (Tamborine man @ May 20 2010, 05:23 AM) *
To symbolically distinguish between the male and the female princip, use
the square or pentagon form or the number 5 for the masculine aspect,
and the circle or hexagon form or the number 6 for the feminine aspect.

The triangle as symbol encompass both male and female.

Cheers


Ah, the female has an extra point on her.

...so true, in so many ways.

LOL
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 18 2010, 11:04 PM) *
Ah, the female has an extra point on her.

...so true, in so many ways.

LOL



Absolutely - and that's the reason of course why

we Love them to the amazing extent we do.

And how in heavens name could we ever be without

this "strange - inscrutable - species" - anyway!

We would be more than lost without them .......surely! yes1.gif

Cheers

PS!
Being still on the triangle, i think it better to reveal where
the missing capstone or cornerstone is to be found, so this
comes next.
Will be back after the weekend!
Tamborine man
These photo's are really just to show how utter "timeless"

the beautiful Supercircle, both in 'silver' and in 'gold', can

look in today's world, and how well it fitted in, in ages past!

(Sorry 'bout the tilting)!








The capstone next.

Cheers
Tamborine man
Here are the measurements regarding to the missing capstone
together with additional measurements pertaining to same.

A serving of too many 'numbers' normally makes ordinary people
drowsy, but i certainly hope the 'sharpminded' of you will stay the
course, and very carefully study the numbers given below.

Base-length of Capstone = 15 321/800 meters = 15.40125 = 1/16th. of Pyramid foundation base-length.

Heigth of Capstone = 9 801/1280 meters = 9.62578125 = 1/16th. of Pyramid foundation height.

Slope-length of Capstone = 12.321 meters = 1/16th. of Pyramid foundation slope-length.

At this point, let us remind ourselves that one cannot built up
unless one first dig down to establish a foundation, and best
if that happen when the bed-rock is reached, but that's another
story!

Thus we are dealing with two base-lengths: The first on the
ground-level, and the second below ground; as can be seen
on the drawings in previous posts:

The height of the Great Pyramid, as it originally was meant to be from ground-level and up = 144.3867188 meters.

The height of the Great Pyramid, from the foundation under-ground and up = 154.0125 meters.

The difference in the two heights = 9.62578125 meters, which is the exact height of the missing Capstone.

The Capstone is to be found on two other places:

Above ground, it perfectly contain the 'Queen's' chamber.

Below ground, it rest on the border between the hexagon and the pentagon, but where only the 'tip' is found
in the hexagon.
(The symbolism of this must wait till another time)!





As mentioned in previous post, the design of the Great Pyramid is based entirely on "The Power of Two".

Here are the measurements to prove this beautiful fact:


308.025 = 308025 = 555^ diameter of circle containing Great Pyramid. Also radius
being vertical height of Great Pyramid. = 154.0125 meters.

246.42 = 24642 x 2 = 222^ foundation base-length of Great Pyramid at diameter of circle.

197.136 = 197136 = 444^ length of slope from foundation and up, of Great Pyramid.

231.01875 x 1920 = 666^ base length of Great Pyramid at Giza ground-level. (1920 being the year the message in OP was given first time)!

123.21 = 12321 = 111^ half base length of Great Pyramid at foundation diameter.

12321 x 7^ = 777^ apex of Great pyramid = 771/7 degree.

12321 x 8^ = 888^

12321 x 9^ = 999^

A curiosity:
246.42 x 222 x 1000 = 54705240

231.1875 x 236800 = 54705240 ....... 2368 = 37 x 64 = Jesus Christus in Gematria.

222 x 444 x 555 = 54705240

308025 x 2 x 888 = 54705240

The significance of the measurements to the hexagon and pentagons
to follow.

Cheers
lunk
Very interesting pictures and shape.

Could the "super-circle" be the average difference in radius,
from the center of both the cube, and the sphere?

...i wonder what a tetrahedral-sphere would look like...
considering that the tetrahedron is the smallest, conceivable, volume of space, and the sphere is the biggest.

it also makes me wonder if there is an in-between size,
where the tetrahedrons fit together, somehow, to make a cube.

interesting progression,

a tetrahedron has 4 sides,
a cube, 6 sides,
a octahedron, 8, that's a double pyramid.
10 faces, 12...
it's getting rounder all the time.

eventually, it seems, we would get back to the sphere,
which would have,
get this,
an even but infinite number of sides.

...but if a bubble has just one side,
sort of like...

back to the point.

cheers
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 22 2010, 11:59 AM) *
Very interesting pictures and shape.

Could the "super-circle" be the average difference in radius,
from the center of both the cube, and the sphere?

...i wonder what a tetrahedral-sphere would look like...
considering that the tetrahedron is the smallest, conceivable, volume of space, and the sphere is the biggest.

it also makes me wonder if there is an in-between size,
where the tetrahedrons fit together, somehow, to make a cube.

interesting progression,

a tetrahedron has 4 sides,
a cube, 6 sides,
a octahedron, 8, that's a double pyramid.
10 faces, 12...
it's getting rounder all the time.

eventually, it seems, we would get back to the sphere,
which would have,
get this,
an even but infinite number of sides.

...but if a bubble has just one side,
sort of like...

back to the point.

cheers



Well, Lunk, as said earlier, there exist no such thing as a
"straigth line" in the universe, and can therefore not be
used to determine the circumference of a circle. Neither
can points be used, as only the intersection of two 'straight
lines' can produce a point.

This might sound like a contradiction, but thinking about
this problem in abstract terms, you'll find that it makes
perfect sense.

So of course anybody can draw a 'straight line', or built a
tetrahedron out of cardboard, but that's not the 'point' when
the talk is about something universal and which transcend all
matter and all borders.

The Supercircle is simply the most attractive form that's caused
by the meeting of the circle and the square, when the circle
tends toward the square shape and the square's corners are
rounded more and more toward the shape of the circle.

Where the two meet in perfect balance and harmony, beautiful
'music' and beautiful thoughts become the result.

I've not yet worked out the area or the volume of the supercircle
geometrically, but nevertheless keeping on trying, regardless!

Perhaps with the information already given in this thread, a
mathematical 'genius' could work it out for us??

Wonders are never far away ....... they say!!

Cheers
lunk
i used to build tables,
i always cut off the corners,
if they weren't round.

A square corner on a table,
can hurt.

funny that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_jRcZx6LCA
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 24 2010, 12:18 AM) *
i used to build tables,
i always cut off the corners,
if they weren't round.

A square corner on a table,
can hurt.

funny that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_jRcZx6LCA



So he just built a 'proton'!! Funny that - as nobody knows
what a proton looks like, and even less whether such a
'thing' exist or not.
But that's his problem to worry about.

I just made a coffee-table out of huon-pine and celery-top pine;
from Tasmania's and the world's oldest pine trees.

And of course i rounded the corners. But only slightly!

Will come back with the pentagon, the hexagon, the rhombus
and the vesica pisces over the weekend. Too busy at the moment.

Cheers
lunk
QUOTE (Tamborine man @ May 27 2010, 03:55 AM) *
So he just built a 'proton'!! Funny that - as nobody knows
what a proton looks like, and even less whether such a
'thing' exist or not.
But that's his problem to worry about.

I just made a coffee-table out of huon-pine and celery-top pine;
from Tasmania's and the world's oldest pine trees.

And of course i rounded the corners. But only slightly!

Will come back with the pentagon, the hexagon, the rhombus
and the vesica pisces over the weekend. Too busy at the moment.

Cheers


The interesting thing about the Adams' model of a proton, is that he theorized this idea years ago. He showed that the weight of the proton could be modeled after twice the weight of an electron. The prime matter particle.
And that these particles would be conglomerated in the shape of a cube,
with the corners cut off.
Then he built that model with magnets!

It was all done with geometry.

And yes, it is too small to see, but it is important,
in that it shows both the theory, and the model works.

...and considering that a proton is in the center of every atom in our universe.

There must be a point where something is too small to matter,
in the universe,
yet still must exist, in some form,
and geometry.

The infinitesimal.
Tamborine man
Yes Lunk, the 'infinitesimal' is certainly something we should talk much more about,
but first the following:

Before coming to the pentagon and the hexagon, I must first refer
back to the new axiom mentioned earlier, which simply states:

“The intersection of two curves can never create a point.
only when two straight lines intersect will a point occur.”


We will now investigate further the ramifications of this, by using
both the Rhombus and the Vesica Piscis as means of comparison
between the two “points” of view in the axiom.

It has been commonly understood that the proportion between the
length and the width of a Vesica Piscis and the Rhombus (an oblique
equilateral parallelogram inscribed Therein), is the √3.
But because of the new axiom this can no longer be the case, as
according to this axiom a differentiation must be observed.
Let the proportion of the Rhombus remain at √3, as this can easily
be proved, and therefore only concentrate on the Vesica Piscis in
the drawing below.




The two large circles were drawn with diameters 266 2/3 mm, so
that the radius forming the width of the area and shape of the
resulting Vesica Piscis becomes 133 1/3 mm.
The intersection of the two circumferences then becomes the height
of the VP, but as no ‘point’ has been created (ref. to new axiom) this
distance can never be determined by the √3 function. Instead we
must use something entirely new, and this we’ll find by discover
that the exact height of the VP in this case turns out to be 231 mm.
So in order to find this new function all we have to do is divide the
height with the width = 231 : 133 1/3 = 1.7325.
For lack of a better term, let’s call this new function simply √3o ,
where ‘o’ stands for ‘over’.
As can now further be determined, the height of the next largest VP,
inscribed in the one above, becomes the same as the previous width,
namely 133 1/3 mm. The new width to this VP becomes a third of the
height of the largest, or 77 mm.
This generates again a new function, as 133 1/3 : 77 = 1.73160173… .
Let’s call this other new function √3u, where ‘u’ stands for ‘under’.

Please notice that the smallest Vesica Piscis in the drawing thus
becomes exactly a 1/3 in size of the largest VP, and so retains the
same proportion and √3o function as this VP does.
So what we are seeing here is an alternating reciprocal interaction
taking place. A pulsation. A breath; like breathing in and out.
Or the circle and its products be given “movements” – and becoming
“alive”.

Same thing will of course apply if we should inscribe a square inside
a circle, such that the diagonal of the square also becomes the diameter
of the circle. And then inscribe another square inside the first, where the
side of the first square becomes the diagonal of the next, and so on.

In this case the √2o function becomes 1.414285714……., and the √2u
function becomes 1.414141414……. .
1.4142857.. x 1.41414.. = 2. And, 1.7325 x 1.73160173…. = 3.
So nothing chances in this regard.

It is very important to bear the above in mind when next we come to
the measurements of the pentagon and the hexagon.

Cheers
lunk
just for reference

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesica_piscis
QUOTE
The name literally means the "bladder of a fish" in Latin.
Tamborine man
First let's repeat the basic measurements of the Pyramid as shown in post no. 120.

Base-length of Pyramid under ground = 246.42 meters. 24642 = 222^/2.

Height of Pyramid from above base = 154.025 meters. 154025 = 555^/2.

Slope-length of Pyramid from above base = 197.136 meters. 197136 = 444^.

The ratio between base and height then, is exactly 1.6.

Base-length of Pyramid at ground level is 231.01875 meters.

In comparison the ratio between base-length at ground level and height of Pyramid from
below ground is 1.5.

And now to the pentagon and the hexagon:





Every sides of both the pentagon and the hexagon is exactly 64 meters.

The height of the pentagons are each 98.568 meters.

98.568 divided by 64 = 1.540125.
1.540125 x 100 = height of Pyramid from below ground base.
98.568 meters times 2 = 197.136 meters, being the slope-length of Pyramid from below
ground base.

The height of the hexagon is 110.889 meters.

110889 = 333^.

98.568 + 98.568 + 110.889 = 308.025. 308025 = 555^.

110.889 divided by 98.568 = 1.125 or 1 1/8.

246.42 divided by 98.568 = 2.5.

246.42 divided by 110.889 = 2 2/9.


This is but a small example of how everything surrounding the pyramid
is interlocking in perfect harmony geometrically wise.
More could be shown, but that would probably be testing peoples patience
too much!

Cheers
lunk
from:
http://www.formationresearch.com/



the 2 become 3.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ May 29 2010, 11:15 AM) *



I'll suggest the psychiatrists use those composite pictures on their patients
instead of the infamous "inkspots" they're so fond of still using!

Perhaps their diagnosis then will change drastically and dramatically??


Just discovered an error made in my previous post, where i stated that the
sides of both the pentagon and the hexagon were exactly 64 meters.

This was partly correct in the old days where i used a diameter of 308 meters,
and the heights of pentagon and hexagon to respectively be 98.56 meters and
110.88 meters.
This turned out to be wrong, so here are the correct lengths:

As both pentagon and hexagon are in this case products of and emanate from
the geometry of the circle, all the sides of both shapes will alternate in length.
The reason being, that the sides do not originate from a certain 'point' to
another 'point', but are sourced by "the infinite" innate nature of the circles
circumference, where no 'point' can exist.

The correct alternating length's are thus, 64.0051948051... or 64 4/770 meters,
followed by 64.03839752... meters, and then returning to 64 4/770 meters etc..

98.568 divided by 64 4/770 = 1.54.

110.889 divided by 64 4/770 = 1.7325.

The decimals .03839752... can be generated by dividing 1.5487 with 40 1/3!
I mention this - as 15487 = 911 x 17, and find it a bit of an oddity to find
this number '911' all of a sudden "tucked" away in here!! blahblah1.gif ??

Cheers

PS!
Love the "crystal wineglass" seen in the middle just beneath the 'two' babies!
lunk
i had a thought that if everything was reduced to the binary,
0 and 1, like a light switch,
one being on,
and zero being off,

then the universe is in the on position.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 1 2010, 07:03 PM) *
i had a thought that if everything was reduced to the binary,
0 and 1, like a light switch,
one being on,
and zero being off,

then the universe is in the on position.


" i had a thought"!

I had a Thought too: What if both the 0 (the female) and the 1 (the male) was switched ON!

then the universe would be in the ON ON position, and everything would become Brighter!!

Yes??

".......

Wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach

1:1 "All wisdom cometh from the Lord, and is with Him for ever."
1:5 "The word of God most high is the fountain of wisdom; and
Her ways are everlasting commandments.” —From the Book of
Sirach, or Ecclesiasticus (a book in the Old Testament Apocrypha)




1

Light and Darkness, in a transcendental sense, are abstractions to mankind, but to God and to all spiritual beings they are realities—mighty, magnetically acting forces.

From eternity, primal Light and primal Darkness each possessed two opposite poles that reposed in a state of complete latency. Although Light existed only as a core of faint luminance surrounded everywhere by Darkness, the radiations of the two primal forces were of exactly equal strength.

Between1 the two primal forces, on the boundary between Light and Darkness, rested Thought and Will. Although themselves in a state of latency, they were throughout eternity equally exposed to the influence of the radiations from Light and Darkness.

After eternities of absolute inactivity, a change occurred in the equipoise of the primal state in that Thought and Will reacted with a faint quiver to the radiations of Darkness. This faint quiver was the first indication of a transition of Thought and Will from absolute inactivity to an awakening activity, since the vibration that took place brought the primal state out of its equipoise.

Gradually, through eons, Thought and Will moved further and further away from the radiations of Darkness and in toward the Light, whose radiations assisted them with a steadily increasing attraction that drew them toward the poles of the Light. Each time that Thought and Will followed the attraction of the Light, the Light gained in strength and in volume. After untold eons of continued attraction, the Thought and the Will reached the poles of the Light, which, at the moment of contact, were aroused from their state of latency. Simultaneously, the Thought and the Will awoke to a fully conscious and willed activity and unfolded a mutual attraction that, through untold eons, gradually drew each closer to the other. As the distance between them lessened, the Light gained yet more in strength, in volume and in radiation.

Attracted and guided by the Will, the Thought strove onward, but in each advance lay a temptation for the Thought to cease the struggle before the Darkness was completely overcome. Under the attraction of the omnipotent Will, however, the Thought struggled forward without cease toward the ever approaching Will, and thereby gained constantly in strength and in brightness, until after further eternities—with the meeting and harmonious union of Thought and Will—the Light wrested itself free from Darkness, raised itself victoriously out of it and above it, so that the Light surrounded and enveloped the Darkness which then slowly contracted, condensing into a dark core in the sea of Light.

By the perfect and harmonious merging of Thought (the female principle) and Will (the male principle) with one another, God arose as a personal Being, as the center of all that is.

This picture of the inert state and the struggle of Light, Darkness, Thought and Will must be understood in an abstract sense and not interpreted in terms of factual, earthly concepts of space, measure and time, nor in terms of known forms of radiation, inertia and motion. No further explanation can be given regarding the presence through eternity of primal Light, of primal Darkness, and of Thought and Will, for it would, at this time, be beyond human comprehension. Only this can be said: that Light, Darkness, Thought and Will were not created, but have existed eternally—a mystery beyond solving or comprehending by human thought at present.

A scientist on the earthly scene could no more lecture a young child meaningfully on philosophy than could a transcendental being advance a detailed explanation of eternal existence in hope of human understanding at this time. But when man has reached greater spiritual maturity, possibly one of God’s emissaries will undertake in an earthly life to explain the riddle of eternity and the mystery of the uncreated.

Had Thought and Will not succeeded in uniting, and had the combined strength of both not triumphed so that the divine Being could arise, then the energy and brightness of the Light would—at the moment Thought and Will were no longer able to attract and hold each other—once more have begun to diminish, while Darkness would have gained in strength and in radiating power until slowly but inevitably it would have absorbed the Light. Forced by Darkness, Thought and Will would then have drawn forth the latent poles of Darkness. These activated poles would then—through untold eternities—have slowly attracted each other until, at the moment of their merging, a being would have arisen who would in every respect have been the direct opposite of God.

But since the poles of the Light, now fused with Thought and Will, continued without cease to approach each other, the Light gained greater and greater dominance over Darkness, and with the emerging of God the possibility was forever eliminated that the poles of Darkness would evolve into a being the opposite of God in thought and action.

Primal Darkness (that is, chaos, or disorder and confusion) thus lacks its own guiding Will and creative Thought. It acts at random and has become destructible as a result of the victory of the Light. The Light, on the other hand, is governed by divine Thought and Will.

By Thought (that is, logos) an infinite diversity of changeable forms of energy and life are radiated. Above Thought stands the Will, as the highest concentration of the Light (the supreme, fructifying and life-giving energy), because as long as a thought of creating or of taking action remains only thought, it has but the possibility of coming to life—has the potential. However, the moment the fructifying Will acts, Thought unites with Will and changes from a state of becoming to a state of being; it becomes actual. But the Will is nothing without Thought as a constant basis for its activity.

Thought thus is the primary abstract female concept: intuitive, formative and creative; and Will the primary abstract male concept: fructifying, productive and dominant.
......."



"But the WILL is nothing without THOUGHT as a constant basis for its activity."

Long live the Thought.
And may She become stronger, more vibrant, more clearer, more simpler, more Loving and more Wiser,
as the days follow days!

Cheers
lunk
Perhaps it's not binary,
but negative and positive,
opposites, -1 and +1.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 2 2010, 02:37 AM) *
Perhaps it's not binary,
but negative and positive,
opposites, -1 and +1.



Or perhaps passive and active!

-1 is still 0.

No matter what, we just cannot get away from the Thought and the Will as
the primary source to absolutely everything. .....Even to the most insane!

'e', or the square root of -1 is really quite meaningless - if you think about it!




Wish more people would come in from the cold!


Cheers


PS!

Tried to rotate it, but apparently wouldn't do.
Sorry!
lunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3E7iZc6qk

too many rules
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 3 2010, 02:11 AM) *



Tom Waits, I presume!

Or was it really you, LUNK?

Liked it - brilliant.





Here's how the rainbow colours appeared on the photo in previous

post.

The Sun came out from behind a cloud and send its rays through

the octahedron glass-prism, hanging from the beam above, and

just as i took the photo on the verandah, the Sun must have

decided to let its rays hit where they did!

This is for those who might think it was photo-shopped, or

that i had anything to do with it.

So no, i didn't!

(Just one of Life's mysterious coincidences.... i suppose)!!!

Cheers


PS!

"Too x 21", = 42. The meaning of Life.

Or, 6 x 7, = Circle/ Female/Thought ....... times ....... Spirituality!

(Just another thought)!
lunk
Nice picture.
Looks very warm, there.

i think we live in the infinite growing garden
of the universe, and we are just kept in the dark,
about it.
lunk
http://www.naturalnews.com/028797_Saturn_hexagon.html

a little natural geometry at play.



notice the slower spinning triangle in the center?
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 5 2010, 05:17 PM) *
http://www.naturalnews.com/028797_Saturn_hexagon.html

a little natural geometry at play.



notice the slower spinning triangle in the center?



Aha - so that's where we're getting our snowflakes from!

Yes, have seen it before, and it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be a genuine phenomenon.

Closer to Earth, we got another "phenomenon" when comparing the following to the Great Pyramid:





Circle containing the Great Pyramid:

Circumference = .................................. 308 ...... x π = ........... 968 ............. x ...... 7 = 6776

Circle area ..... = r^π ... = ............... 23716 ...... x π = ....... 74536 ............. = ..... 77 x .. 968

Sphere area .. = 4r^π .. = .............. 94864 ...... x π = ...... 298144 ............. = .... 308 x .. 968

Sphere volume = r/34r^π = ...... 4869685.33 ...... x π = .. 15304725.333 ...... = ... 77^ x 88^/3

15304725333 ................ = ........... 6776^/3




Forgot to tell, that the reciprocal number to the height of the hexagon in above circle is:

10 : 110889 =

09 018 027 036 045 054 063 072 081 090

099 108 117 126 135 144 153 162 171 180

189 198 207 216 225 234 243 252 261 270

279 288 297 306 315 324 333 342 351 360

369 378 387 396 405 414 423 432 441 450

Etc. etc. up to 900 when the decimal expansion
continues thus:

909 918 927 936 945 954 963 972 981 991

00 000 09 018 027 .... repeating ad infinitum.


Cheers
lunk
pity that the picture was 403.

Zero is the creation of 1+(-1)

One could think of the vacuum of space, that contains nothing,
being made from combined negative and positive particles that sum up to zero.

The negative particle is the electron and the positive particle is the positron, recently renamed anti-matter.

it is thought that when anti-matter and electrons combine,
they annihilate each other, in a burst of energy.
This burst of energy is really the recombining energy, given off as
negative and positive short out to nothing, or the vacuum of space.
These extraordinary particles are undetectable to our universe,
they are the medium through which light radiates through,
at maximum light speed.
one could think of light, in this way as a sound wave traveling through
a super dense medium vacuum space.

Neal Adams proposed the existence of these undetectable particles
and coined the term Prime Matter Particles and found them to be slightly attracted to the free positron, and that they repel the free electron.
This is the building block of matter.

This may be what the ancients described as the aether,
or what modern science proclaims as dark matter.

Either way, it comprises the highest percentage of stuff (or non-stuff) in our universe.

BTW, he figured this all out mathematically and geometrically.

...another little snowflake.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Jun 3 2010, 01:24 AM) *
Or perhaps passive and active!

-1 is still 0.

No matter what, we just cannot get away from the Thought and the Will as
the primary source to absolutely everything. .....Even to the most insane!

'e', or the square root of -1 is really quite meaningless - if you think about it!






Wish more people would come in from the cold!


Cheers


PS!

Tried to rotate it, but apparently wouldn't do.
Sorry!


Tried again, so lets see!
Tamborine man
QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Jun 6 2010, 03:29 AM) *
Aha - so that's where we're getting our snowflakes from!

Yes, have seen it before, and it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be a genuine phenomenon.

Closer to Earth, we got another "phenomenon" when comparing the following to the Great Pyramid:





Circle containing the Great Pyramid:

Circumference = .................................. 308 ...... x π = ........... 968 ............. x ...... 7 = 6776

Circle area ..... = r^π ... = ............... 23716 ...... x π = ....... 74536 ............. = ..... 77 x .. 968

Sphere area .. = 4r^π .. = .............. 94864 ...... x π = ...... 298144 ............. = .... 308 x .. 968

Sphere volume = r/34r^π = ...... 4869685.33 ...... x π = .. 15304725.333 ...... = ... 77^ x 88^/3

15304725333 ................ = ........... 6776^/3




Forgot to tell, that the reciprocal number to the height of the hexagon in above circle is:

10 : 110889 =

09 018 027 036 045 054 063 072 081 090

099 108 117 126 135 144 153 162 171 180

189 198 207 216 225 234 243 252 261 270

279 288 297 306 315 324 333 342 351 360

369 378 387 396 405 414 423 432 441 450

Etc. etc. up to 900 when the decimal expansion
continues thus:

909 918 927 936 945 954 963 972 981 991

00 000 09 018 027 .... repeating ad infinitum.


Cheers


Trying again, and so sorry for the previous mistakes!
lunk
7 11?

Let me get this right.
All the dimensions of the great pyramid of Egypt,
are ratios of solar system measurements?
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 11 2010, 03:38 AM) *
7 11?

Let me get this right.
All the dimensions of the great pyramid of Egypt,
are ratios of solar system measurements?



No not quite, Lunk.

The Great Pyramid itself is based on "the power of two".

It is the circle containing the Great Pyramid and its diameter
and circumference that beautifully reflect our solar system's
measurements.

Please check post 120 for the measurements of the Pyramid.

The vertical height of the Pyramid, from the foundation base
to the apex, is 154.0125 meters, but only if the circle act as
the primary source to the ensuing measurements. (Ref. to
the new axiom)!
The mean distance to the Sun is estimated to be around 154
million kilometers, and the Sun's diameter to be 1.4 million
kilometers.

Cheers
lunk
QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Jun 13 2010, 02:17 AM) *
No not quite, Lunk.

The Great Pyramid itself is based on "the power of two".

It is the circle containing the Great Pyramid and its diameter
and circumference that beautifully reflect our solar system's
measurements.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi%C3%A8te%27s_formula



circle food for thought
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 12 2010, 01:40 AM) *


I'm afraid not, dear Lunk.

you were absolutely right in your previous post though:

π/2 = 11/7.

π = 22/7.

22 x 7 = 154.


154 meters being the height of The Great Pyramid, as previously mentioned.

154 million kilometers being the distance to the SUN, as ditto ditto.

(You keep forgetting about the new axiom, don't you! - why is that???)

OR, do you really only "believe" things if they come from 'official' 'academic' 'self-important' 'up-them-selves' sources!!

Sources, who has absolutely no idea about the infinite importance of our dear sweet beautiful gorgeous vibrant perfect CIRCLE!!

Please, perish the thought immediately ....... please please - i beg you!

Cheers
lunk
just food for thought.

if the great pyramid is based on the power of two,
and creates a circle with the ratios of the planets, and all, in the solar system,
it seems a, sort of proof, to find two in a solution to pi.
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 13 2010, 12:04 AM) *
just food for thought.

if the great pyramid is based on the power of two,
and creates a circle with the ratios of the planets, and all, in the solar system,
it seems a, sort of proof, to find two in a solution to pi.



Again no, Lunk.

It is the CIRCLE that 'created' the Great Pyramid, NOT the other way around.

It is the Thought (the female principle) that creates, and the Will (the male
principle) that makes the created manifest and concrete.

The square root of two is solely connected to the square, and as such has no
"dynamic vitality component" in its nature. All it can do is non-actively repeat
itself.

But of course, you're still right, though.
'Two' is certainly present in pi, nevertheless: first as 11 and then as 22,
together with the ever present spiritual element 7 as the vibration that gives
"Life"!

I mean - how on Earth could we ever exist without the "Mother", eh??

Cheers
lunk
QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Jun 15 2010, 04:44 AM) *
Again no, Lunk.

It is the CIRCLE that 'created' the Great Pyramid, NOT the other way around.


Got it.

Not sure exactly how this applies to a male and female principle, though,
or what, exactly this means?
Tamborine man
QUOTE (lunk @ Jun 14 2010, 10:24 AM) *
Got it.

Not sure exactly how this applies to a male and female principle, though,
or what, exactly this means?



Hi Lunk,

as said earlier, the 'circle' is the "symbol" representing the female principle.

On a physical level, the form of the female is much more 'rounded' than that
of the male and her skin appears much more 'softer' and 'delicate' in comparison
to the male's. (The exception being my own bum, but that's something i refuse
to prove the validity of)!

From post 132:

".......
By Thought (that is, logos) an infinite diversity of changeable forms of energy and life are radiated. Above Thought stands the Will, as the highest concentration of the Light (the supreme, fructifying and life-giving energy), because as long as a thought of creating or of taking action remains only thought, it has but the possibility of coming to life—has the potential. However, the moment the fructifying Will acts, Thought unites with Will and changes from a state of becoming to a state of being; it becomes actual. But the Will is nothing without Thought as a constant basis for its activity.

Thought thus is the primary abstract female concept: intuitive, formative and creative; and Will the primary abstract male concept: fructifying, productive and dominant.
......."


"Above Thought stands the Will, ...."!


Look at the Pyramid lay-out in elevation, and you'll see the King's chamber above
and to the left of the Queen's chamber.

It is the Queen's chamber that takes the 'center' position and not the other way around.

The term 'King's and Queen's chamber" is a later human invention, and was not in the
Thoughts of neither the architect nor the builder when the Great Pyramid was built.

All they had in mind was "to the power of two", and humankind cannot never praise
them high enough for this 'message' they send on to future generations.

May it be truly understood in these perilous times - please!

Cheers
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