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lurker
hello,

I was searching the web for faa's "Executive Summary Chronology of a Multiple Hijacking Crisis, September 11, 2001" which barbara honegger cites as another source for evidence that at 9:32 a violent event occcured at the pentagon.

so far I have not yet found this particular document but I found another document of the 911 commission ("Staff Monograph on the "Four Flights and Civil Aviation Security") dated from september 12, 2005 that heavily references the above document.

searching through the gathered document I found a very interesting piece of information that I did not know before and I would like to share here.

in the footnote section, page 93, footnote #226 they write

a) that they have videotapes showing the alleged hijackers of flight 77 when they entered through the westpoint check point of Dulles airport, 3 of them setting off alarms, 2 of them were even "hand-wanded" AND

b) say that an investigation/interrogation of all 43 screeners who were on duty that day revealed, that NONE of them was able to remember having handled ANY of the passengers identified as selectees.

I find that very odd.

amazed!
I don't find it particularly odd. Assuming the statements of the screeners are true and accurate, it simply suggests that the reference videos were generated "evidence" to support the OCT. Created out of whole cloth, it fits in with the other staged events.

It's second hand information, but I think reliable, that at Newark that morning, on at least one concourse, there were NO screeners at the checkpoint. That, from an airline pilot who had been flying out of EWR that month.

Staged events, and feeding pablum to the MSM.
dMz
QUOTE (lurker @ May 19 2010, 07:50 AM) *
hello,

I was searching the web for faa's "Executive Summary Chronology of a Multiple Hijacking Crisis, September 11, 2001" which barbara honegger cites as another source for evidence that at 9:32 a violent event occcured at the pentagon.

so far I have not yet found this particular document ...


http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB165/faa5.pdf

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB165/index.htm
TheSurgeon
That the screeners did not recognize anything out of the ordinary is understandable. amazed! hit the nail on the head. The video was generated evidence. The video is a fake. There is a fundamental flaw in the video:

The video camera would have been located at the south side of the terminal, facing north. The terminal runs east - west, with the entrance on the north side. The video clearly shows shadows of people walking in the terminal, or approaching security. The shadows go north to south (or towards the camera), which would have the sun in the north. That is not possible. I have verified this with sun calculation software, photos taken at various dates and times, etc. Also, I know Dulles airport quite well -- I've been there many times.

Also, the hijackers passed through security at sunrise and shortly after sunrise. If there were any shadows, the would be from east to west (or right to left from the camera perspective).

Dulles has very shiny floors which can create some very sharp reflections, but the video shows very distinct shadows.

The video is a fake.

I've read some Memorandums for the Record from the 9/11 Commission concerning the FBI investigation at Dulles -- but, cannot find them now. Anybody have additional information?

QUOTE (amazed! @ May 23 2010, 05:26 PM) *
I don't find it particularly odd. Assuming the statements of the screeners are true and accurate, it simply suggests that the reference videos were generated "evidence" to support the OCT. Created out of whole cloth, it fits in with the other staged events.

.....

Staged events, and feeding pablum to the MSM.
amazed!
Welcome, Surgeon. salute.gif

I think I read about a similar analysis as yours regarding the videos of the "hijackers" at the airport in Maine. By analyzing shadows and camera locations, comparing them to the time they were supposedly taken, it does not take much analysis to show the videos to be faked.
onesliceshort
IF they were the "Flight 77 hijackers", why can't we see the "Flight 77 passengers" passing through these terminals?
Or what was the excuse for not showing them?

As a matter of fact were any passengers caught on video anywhere for all four flights?
Sorry, I'm green on this subject if it has already been covered.
paranoia
sorry oss, i dont have an official answer - though im pretty sure i dont recall having EVER seen ANY airport footage of ANY of the alleged passengers... but its a point worth exploring-

take someone like barbara olson for example, who had a very recognizable face, and who was a celebrity in her own right (thanks to her being funded by richard mellon scaife in his anti-clinton crusades), how come no footage of her has been released? one would think that because of her fame the msm media would have obtained and released some stills of her at the airport (dulles) if they actually had any. regardless of captured security cam footage, she was famous enough that some random tourist or anti-clintonite at the airport should have definitely recognized her and might have even asked for her autograph or requested to take a picture with her. at the very least someone would (should) have noted her presence - if she had actually been there. so you would think that by now at least one random person who was there at the airport that day would have come forth on the internet or elsewhere to name-drop* and say "yeah, i personally saw barbara olson at the airport on 9/11! i cant believe those were her last moments alive! life is so random, weird, and sad that way...", or something along those lines. but to date no one has come forth saying they saw mrs.olson at dulles on 9/11. i dont know about the rest of the alleged passengers, but with olson in particulr there is definitely room for doubt about wether or not she was ever at dulles, nevermind having actually boarded a plane that departed from there on 9/11.



no mentions of anyone having seen barbara at dulles, sample search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...tart=0&sa=N

examples of celeb sightings at dulles:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...q=&gs_rfai=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...q=&gs_rfai=


random celeb sightings/encounters:
http://www.yelp.com/topic/new-york-weirdes...hile-hangin-out


*for referrence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name-dropping
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...=name%20dropper
amazed!
An interesting point gentlemen!
onesliceshort
Cheers P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLEqjpHVPhM

Are these airport terminal videos available under the FOIA?

There are 3 excerpts shown in the Dulles terminal video at 07:15 through to 07:35.
The plane was allegedly boarded at 07:50.

Where was the queue of passengers? It allegedly took the "hijackers" a few minutes to check in and pass through security and there was nobody from that same flight trying to board at the time? No stragglers?
Nobody else within that last half hour before boarding?

How do we demand the rest of the footage?

I know for a fact that if it were a family member of mine, I would want to see my loved ones last moments, no matter how obscure or painful. That is what i don't get. At all.

Has anybody related to these people actually asked to see this footage?

I'm not pointing an accusatory finger but trying to understand the logic behind the lack of requests that I know of for a last glimpse of these people while they were still alive.
richard cranium
After watching that you tube video I couln't help but wonder about something I might have forgotten the details about. Didn't I read somewhere a long time ago that none of the hijackers were listed on the passenger lists of the flights? If so, has it ever been determined if they used an alias? I guess if this video and everything else on that day could be lied about, so could ( and probably so) the passeneger list. You know, everytime I look at things concerning this terrible day ( even after all these years ) it just NEVER adds up. Everytime I hear the "official" version I find myself muttering "bullshit,bullshit,bullshit". How can anyone with any type of common sense not feel the same way?


rc
amazed!
According to the official story, the passenger loads were very light indeed, way less than half full. And that could be possibly used to explain the few bodies on the videos mentioned here.

And I can remember hearing the story somewhere early on that "the bad guys" had reserved a bunch of seats, or bought blocks of seats, something like that. In what might have been an effort to justify the light pax load.

For 4 flights, I think the total body count was about 250.

It's a bullshit story from start to finish.
onesliceshort
QUOTE (richard cranium @ Jul 10 2010, 01:16 AM) *
After watching that you tube video I couln't help but wonder about something I might have forgotten the details about. Didn't I read somewhere a long time ago that none of the hijackers were listed on the passenger lists of the flights? If so, has it ever been determined if they used an alias? I guess if this video and everything else on that day could be lied about, so could ( and probably so) the passeneger list. You know, everytime I look at things concerning this terrible day ( even after all these years ) it just NEVER adds up. Everytime I hear the "official" version I find myself muttering "bullshit,bullshit,bullshit". How can anyone with any type of common sense not feel the same way?


rc


I think that they were not on the casualties list.
What I found hard to believe (among all of the bs) was that when the "hijackers" allegedly went through that terminal in three different shots, no other passengers were recorded. As usual we are left with high improbability statistics and nothing concrete.

Even if as Amazed says that there were low numbers on those flights, it goes back to paranoia's post about the staff ot other people at the terminal not noticing a high profile personality like Barbara Olson.

But at least we know that they have no excuse when that footage is demanded in its entirity.
lurker
thank you dmole for providing the links to the files I was looking for!

strangely I was not notified by the automatic thread-response scheme that someone actually answered my posting, so let me say I am sorry for the delay ...
TheSurgeon
Link for the Dulles Security Video


Dulles Security Video - Government Exhibit

Look for NT00211

Note that the first part of the video is blank.
woody
QUOTE (TheSurgeon @ Jun 30 2010, 10:15 AM) *
I've read some Memorandums for the Record from the 9/11 Commission concerning the FBI investigation at Dulles -- but, cannot find them now. Anybody have additional information?


Here are plenty of FBi interviews with checkpoint screeners etc. - for all four flights. I didn't check the Dulles interviews, but can promise that the Logan interviews are veeeeery interesting.

http://www.911myths.com/images/d/d4/Team7_...ntScreeners.pdf

http://www.911myths.com/images/f/fd/Team7_...AndCheck-In.pdf

You might find more stuff here. I recommend the sections of Team 7 & 8.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/9-11_Com...ecords#Box_DH.1
onesliceshort
QUOTE (woody @ Aug 12 2010, 04:38 PM) *
Here are plenty of FBi interviews with checkpoint screeners etc. - for all four flights. I didn't check the Dulles interviews, but can promise that the Logan interviews are veeeeery interesting.

http://www.911myths.com/images/d/d4/Team7_...ntScreeners.pdf

http://www.911myths.com/images/f/fd/Team7_...AndCheck-In.pdf

You might find more stuff here. I recommend the sections of Team 7 & 8.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/9-11_Com...ecords#Box_DH.1


Cheers Woody! thumbsup.gif

Never saw these before.

Just started browsing through the "Team 7" files and found this



"Dana Turner" said that her duties were to inspect whether everything was clean and in "working order" pre-flights.
She could possibly answer the question as to whether there were seatphones on Flight 77?
onesliceshort
Also found this which is relevant to this thread on Brenda Brown.
The interview was carried out just 8 days after 9/11 on 19th



She was checking First Class, Platinum and Gold Card members and doesn't recall any Arab sounding names nor does she mention Barbara Olson (though I wish I could understand just how famous Ms Olson was at that time)

Look at the first class section



huh.gif

Funny enough she said she recalled the name Yamnicky but not because he wore a patch over his eye.



This was the fella that his family claimed didn't "talk about his work".
At the time he was working for Veridian

Not pointing any fingers but Jesus...
Sanders
Great thread! thumbsup.gif

When you dive into the recesses of the official 9/11 story with a magnifying glass, it always falls apart.
Skeptik
A question for our aeronautical experts. If in flight phones were fitted to the flight concerned, would they have been fitted in first and economy or just first class?
albertchampion
in my experience, for every seat, just first.

after first, the flightphone[s] was located by the lower class loos.

and you had to stand there to initiate, conduct the call. with your cc in your hand. and ducking anyone coming in and out of the loos.

but i could be wrong. my recollections are based on my carrier of choice, continental.
DoYouEverWonder
John D. Yamnicky Sr. 'was flying to Los Angeles on business for Veridian Engineering, a Virginia-based military contractor, where he worked on fighter aircraft and air-to-air missile programs.'

John retired in 1978 from the Navy as a Captain after 26 years of service on a Friday and went to work the following Monday for what is now Veridian.

After graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1952, Yamnicky served a combat tour in Korea and was the commander of a Navy attack squadron, serving two tours in Southeast Asia flying from aircraft carriers. He earned several medals, including the Distinguished Flying Cross.


US Naval Academy

Yamnicky was a very experienced fighter pilot and a warrior. So even if Muslim hijackers were able to overcome the pilot and co-pilot and take control of the plane, this man was going to sit there and do nothing?

Also on Flight 77, the captain Charles F. Burlingame, III and Wilson "Buddy" Flagg were also graduates of the US Naval Academy. Flagg was also a very experienced pilot.

Flagg and Yamnicky both have ties to Tailhook. Flagg was one of the three admirals that was censored for the Tailhook sex scandal.
onesliceshort
QUOTE (Skeptik @ Aug 15 2010, 07:32 PM) *
A question for our aeronautical experts. If in flight phones were fitted to the flight concerned, would they have been fitted in first and economy or just first class?


I think it's nuts that 9 years after the event, we are still speculating on whether Flight 77 had back seat phones or not!
I mean, what justification do they have for withholding this straightforward information from people who pay their wages.

The ambiguous Olson phonecall was used in the Massaoui trial. The simple matter of whether they were installed or not should be made available to the public to answer this question once and for all.

Is there no way we can find this out through FOIA? Does this fall inside the remits of FOIA seeing as how it was used an issue in the law courts?
rob balsamo
QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Aug 15 2010, 08:56 PM) *
Is there no way we can find this out through FOIA? Does this fall inside the remits of FOIA seeing as how it was used an issue in the law courts?



http://pilotsfor911truth.org/AA757AMM.html

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/amrarticle.html
onesliceshort
QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Aug 16 2010, 03:42 AM) *


Cheers Rob.
Wasn't aware of that new documentation. thumbsup.gif
paranoia
QUOTE (OSS)
She was checking First Class, Platinum and Gold Card members and doesn't recall any Arab sounding names nor does she mention Barbara Olson (though I wish I could understand just how famous Ms Olson was at that time)



ok, so i hadnt realized this before, but barbara olson was indeed a well-known face and name around dc AND especially so around 9/11. in the weeks leading up to it, in fact thru most of the summer, olson had been on television discussing the disappearance of chandra levy and congressman condit's possible guilt (documentation below). im not sure how big the news was nationally, but around the dc metro area (inside "the beltway" so-to-speak), levy's absence dominated the airwaves and local gossip. im sure a substantial contingent of locals around here were privy to her tv appearances, and given the frequency of such appearances, barbara olson's face/persona would have been more common and recognizable than it had ever been prior. so if she was ever in the public terminals at dulles on 9/11, someone would definitely have remembered it. yes - its debateable - would such a witness bother making their encounter known publicly? i believe that at least one would, but so far none have.



barb on august 20,2001 on larry king, talking about condit and levy:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...=clnk&gl=us

and on august 29,2001:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...=clnk&gl=us


some notable excerpts:
QUOTE
OLSON: Oh, I think Chandra Levy will be found. You know, no one disappears into thin air. Someone saw something, besides the people responsible. It just always happens. It just hasn't clicked, or for whatever reason, the person hasn't come forward. I think there are clues that will be put together...

GERAGOS: Exactly. You're not going to ever find him (now refering to Jimmy Hoffa). You don't know where he is. You don't know where he is.

Barbara does. She's got some clues.

OLSON: I think we can all agree that Hoffa was a very professional job.

GRACE: Yes.

KING: Oh, very. Now you're saying same thing here?

OLSON: Well, we don't know. I mean, I don't think it is the kind of level that Jimmy Hoffa was. We know that was done in a very professional way. The body was never going to be found. For all we know Chandra Levy was fine one minute and disappeared the next minute, and it was in Washington, D.C. I don't think she was on a train, despite what GARY CONDIT thought. And so I think somebody saw something. Washington is a city where people see things all the time.



this blogger had some gripes about olson's lack of investigational and researching skills in regards to the levy case, but the point he makes is actually relevant to olson on 9/11:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/h072301_1.shtml

QUOTE
23 July 2001
Our current howler: Train wreck
-Synopsis: When Barbara Olson studied Amtrak, all (rail)roads led straight back to sex.

-Commentary by Barbara Olson, Larry King, Nancy Grace
Larry King Live, CNN, 7/20/01

-Commentary by Susan Levy
The Today Show, NBC, 5/17/01

-Missing Intern’s Family Asks Condit for Help
Petula Dvorak and Allan Lengel, The Washington Post, 6/15/01



Pursuit of the facts

A former prosecutor, Olson is strangely unskilled when it comes to pursuit of simple facts. In this instance, she’s done some nosing around about Southwest Airlines. "Southwest Airlines," she reports to King, "seems like they do fly not into San Francisco but Oakland." We couldn’t help chuckling at Olson’s construction. It "seems" that Southwest goes into Oakland? She makes it sound like the airline’s operations are some sort of closely-held corporate secret. You have to check with shadowy sources, and even then you’re not sure of the facts.

In reality, Southwest Airlines now publishes "schedules," which it hands out at airports and has placed on the web. As it turns out, Southwest does indeed fly into Oakland, as Olson has heard from her unnamed sources. But it also flies into Sacramento—a straight shot up Route 5 from Modesto (see road maps, published by Rand McNally)—and Southwest flies into San Jose, the closest site to Levy’s home.


Life on the streets

Olson is weak at pursuit of the facts, but she also seems to lack those key street smarts. To Olson, Southwest Airlines just doesn’t smell right. "That doesn’t seem like the kind of travel she (chandra levy) would take to go back home to see her parents," Olson says. "She would fly closer in." Surely, no one familiar with life on this planet will need to be told just how stupid this is. In today’s world, people go ten states out of their way to take advantage of Southwest's fares. Apparently, Olson has been lounging on corporate jets for so long she doesn’t know how the great unwashed do it. King might as well revive Piltdown Man and let him discuss Levy's travel strategies...


So here's our question: Do you know anyone, anyone at all who knows less about her daily business than Olson knows about this case? Could normal people function like this? For example, what would happen to a real estate agent who knew next to nothing about her listings, and didn’t have the slightest idea how she might find out? A normal person couldn't survive in Olson's total know-nothing state.

But Olson isn't a normal person, she's an important national figure, offering nightly commentary on one of our most influential TV shows. And, despite her ignorance of basic facts, she constantly insinuates that a public figure has actually committed a murder! It's hard to believe that such repulsive conduct would be tolerated for a minute in any other sector. Why in the world does Larry King keep pundits like this on his show?





btw - here for instance is another recollection i found:
http://blog.a9e.org/2001_09_01_archive.html
QUOTE
Then the Pentagon attack. Dear God, why? (Flashbacks to reading that awful Clancy novel about the Japanese flying a plane into the Capitol during a SotU speech, killing most of the government.) Someone reports that Barbara Olson was on the Pentagon plane! My parents and I just met her husband, the solicitor general, just a few months ago in DC!!! FUCKING HELL!!!

-and this guy only met her husband! yet he recalls it as a result of the 9/11 news, and even goes as far as to share it publicly. but we still havent any (publicly shared) barbara olson sightings at dulles on 9/11, and given how "famous" she was at the time i still find it hard to believe - cuz frankly i dont think she ever stepped foot into the public terminals there.



see also:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10789204
onesliceshort
QUOTE (paranoia)
QUOTE (OSS)
She was checking First Class, Platinum and Gold Card members and doesn't recall any Arab sounding names nor does she mention Barbara Olson (though I wish I could understand just how famous Ms Olson was at that time)



ok, so i hadnt realized this before, but barbara olson was indeed a well-known face and name around dc AND especially so around 9/11. in the weeks leading up to it, in fact thru most of the summer, olson had been on television discussing the disappearance of chandra levy and congressman condit's possible guilt (documentation below). im not sure how big the news was nationally, but around the dc metro area (inside "the beltway" so-to-speak), levy's absence dominated the airwaves and local gossip. im sure a substantial contingent of locals around here were privy to her tv appearances, and given the frequency of such appearances, barbara olson's face/persona would have been more common and recognizable than it had ever been prior. so if she was ever in the public terminals at dulles on 9/11, someone would definitely have remembered it. yes - its debateable - would such a witness bother making their encounter known publicly? i believe that at least one would, but so far none have.



barb on august 20,2001 on larry king, talking about condit and levy:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...=clnk&gl=us

and on august 29,2001:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...=clnk&gl=us


some notable excerpts:
QUOTE
OLSON: Oh, I think Chandra Levy will be found. You know, no one disappears into thin air. Someone saw something, besides the people responsible. It just always happens. It just hasn't clicked, or for whatever reason, the person hasn't come forward. I think there are clues that will be put together...

GERAGOS: Exactly. You're not going to ever find him (now refering to Jimmy Hoffa). You don't know where he is. You don't know where he is.

Barbara does. She's got some clues.

OLSON: I think we can all agree that Hoffa was a very professional job.

GRACE: Yes.

KING: Oh, very. Now you're saying same thing here?

OLSON: Well, we don't know. I mean, I don't think it is the kind of level that Jimmy Hoffa was. We know that was done in a very professional way. The body was never going to be found. For all we know Chandra Levy was fine one minute and disappeared the next minute, and it was in Washington, D.C. I don't think she was on a train, despite what GARY CONDIT thought. And so I think somebody saw something. Washington is a city where people see things all the time.



this blogger had some gripes about olson's lack of investigational and researching skills in regards to the levy case, but the point he makes is actually relevant to olson on 9/11:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/h072301_1.shtml

QUOTE
23 July 2001
Our current howler: Train wreck
-Synopsis: When Barbara Olson studied Amtrak, all (rail)roads led straight back to sex.

-Commentary by Barbara Olson, Larry King, Nancy Grace
Larry King Live, CNN, 7/20/01

-Commentary by Susan Levy
The Today Show, NBC, 5/17/01

-Missing Intern’s Family Asks Condit for Help
Petula Dvorak and Allan Lengel, The Washington Post, 6/15/01



Pursuit of the facts

A former prosecutor, Olson is strangely unskilled when it comes to pursuit of simple facts. In this instance, she’s done some nosing around about Southwest Airlines. "Southwest Airlines," she reports to King, "seems like they do fly not into San Francisco but Oakland." We couldn’t help chuckling at Olson’s construction. It "seems" that Southwest goes into Oakland? She makes it sound like the airline’s operations are some sort of closely-held corporate secret. You have to check with shadowy sources, and even then you’re not sure of the facts.

In reality, Southwest Airlines now publishes "schedules," which it hands out at airports and has placed on the web. As it turns out, Southwest does indeed fly into Oakland, as Olson has heard from her unnamed sources. But it also flies into Sacramento—a straight shot up Route 5 from Modesto (see road maps, published by Rand McNally)—and Southwest flies into San Jose, the closest site to Levy’s home.


Life on the streets

Olson is weak at pursuit of the facts, but she also seems to lack those key street smarts. To Olson, Southwest Airlines just doesn’t smell right. "That doesn’t seem like the kind of travel she (chandra levy) would take to go back home to see her parents," Olson says. "She would fly closer in." Surely, no one familiar with life on this planet will need to be told just how stupid this is. In today’s world, people go ten states out of their way to take advantage of Southwest's fares. Apparently, Olson has been lounging on corporate jets for so long she doesn’t know how the great unwashed do it. King might as well revive Piltdown Man and let him discuss Levy's travel strategies...


So here's our question: Do you know anyone, anyone at all who knows less about her daily business than Olson knows about this case? Could normal people function like this? For example, what would happen to a real estate agent who knew next to nothing about her listings, and didn’t have the slightest idea how she might find out? A normal person couldn't survive in Olson's total know-nothing state.

But Olson isn't a normal person, she's an important national figure, offering nightly commentary on one of our most influential TV shows. And, despite her ignorance of basic facts, she constantly insinuates that a public figure has actually committed a murder! It's hard to believe that such repulsive conduct would be tolerated for a minute in any other sector. Why in the world does Larry King keep pundits like this on his show?





btw - here for instance is another recollection i found:
http://blog.a9e.org/2001_09_01_archive.html
QUOTE
Then the Pentagon attack. Dear God, why? (Flashbacks to reading that awful Clancy novel about the Japanese flying a plane into the Capitol during a SotU speech, killing most of the government.) Someone reports that Barbara Olson was on the Pentagon plane! My parents and I just met her husband, the solicitor general, just a few months ago in DC!!! FUCKING HELL!!!

-and this guy only met her husband! yet he recalls it as a result of the 9/11 news, and even goes as far as to share it publicly. but we still havent any (publicly shared) barbara olson sightings at dulles on 9/11, and given how "famous" she was at the time i still find it hard to believe - cuz frankly i dont think she ever stepped foot into the public terminals there.



see also:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10789204


Thanks so much paranoia.

Now I have an excellent idea of how "famous" this character was at the time.

You would also imagine that people milling about the airport that morning would remember her.
These celebrity type figures usually have personal security, especially given who her husband was.

On a side note..

I'll have to search for the testimony of the people allegedly involved in a runway "incident" just before "Flight 77" took off and prevented the standard preflight check taking place.

The check-in personnel testimony really is an intriguing read but I had to put it on the back burner to finish another project (taking waaay longer than expected sad.gif )
onesliceshort
Here are a couple more sections of interviews:


















(NB: None of the "hijackers" in the alleged airport video had "moustaches" or "briefcases"




The following to excerpts are á la Ted Olson regarding whether a mobile or "normal" phone









The AT&T operator in the last excerpt was allegedly asked to place the call through to 202514-2201. Solicitor General's office.

"Guns and knives"? The pilots weren't aware? Doesn't tally with Ted's story either of "boxcutters" and the pilot being in the back of the plane.


Pilots? How irregular is it for a pilot to "fire up" the engines before checking that the groundcrew are safely out of harm's way?

Still trying to find more on the alleged runway "accident" that prevented the regular preflight check.


ETA: Has anybody ever found the interview with Wendy Lnu?? The person who was allegedly at the boarding gate?
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