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albertchampion
if you are willing to believe the head of our politburo, barry obombya, then i must inform you that your brain is residing in cloud cuckoo land.

to believe this new gospel according to barry, one must know nothing about islamabad. and i think that no one in any of the agitprop agencies is going to relate the reality of islamabad.

islamabad is, in a very real sense, a ceremonially nomenklatura city. it was created out of whole cloth by a dictatorial pakistani regime. much as brazilia was created by a dictatorial junta. much as washington, dc was created by a dictator[a benign one perhaps], but l'enfant's scheme for the potomac swamp was the work of a courtier to an erstwhile land development entrepreneur.

islamabad is a "company" town. and the "company" is the pakistani government[overwhelmingly of military relationships] and islamabad is as tightly controlled as is imaginable. there is no disorder in islamabad. there is nothing out of place. it is an imperial compound[much like our green zone in baghdad].

abbotobad[sic], is a compound within that compound. for a comparison, think of it as if the general officer's area in the presidio in sfo. or the general officer's quarters at fort myers. or areas of arlington, alexandria, and langley. where virtually every house harbors a staff level officer at the pentagram, a staff level officer at the nsa, the cia, the dia, ad acronym infinitum.

for usama to be living there in a compounded mansion would be tantamount to his living in similar digs in georgetown. or better still, in george marshall's house at ft myer's[better still as admiral yamamoto after pearl harbor].

in this highly militarized residential compound of islamabad, no residence can be acquired without approval by the pakistani authorities. and no one can be living there without the knowledge of the "operators" of pakistan. this includes the pakistan head of state and all his underlings and allies. living in this area is as if living in what mi6 labeled the "fishbowl" - no one and no behavior could go unobserved. unless a "blindness" was ordered.

usama was, is, a legend. created by the mossad and its vassals. the legend was imposed upon the public by yossef bodansky.

i have read some ridiculing my scepticism about this obombya story as some form of "socialist" thinking. hmmmmmm. let us reflect upon what usama the "legend" has accomplished: a virtual totalitarian u.s. government welcomed by the majority of the u.s. populace.

i could write so much more, but i don't think i need to.

usama can now exit the play. the curtain for the last act of a republic is rising. i see the finis.

ave caesar. morituri te salutamus. ipso facto.



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bill
interesting insights about islamabad -- this report has more credibility for me now

link to RT report

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/view...?video_id=14798


you got it dead on, albert

My wife commented yesterday that this is extreme 'in your face' by tptb

the coverup of the radiation from Japan, the obviously fake birth certificate, the hoopla over OBL being murdered, the blowing of the Missouri levee destroying farmland the GOM disaster and on and on

it is as if they are being so blatant that if you don't 'get it ' now you deserve your fate



ave caesar. morituri te salutamus


indeed !

but I ain't rolling over easy

eta

Illegitimi non carborundum
DoYouEverWonder
QUOTE (bill @ May 3 2011, 07:02 AM) *
interesting insights about islamabad -- this report has more credibility for me now

link to RT report

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/view...?video_id=14798


you got it dead on, albert

My wife commented yesterday that this is extreme 'in your face' by tptb

the coverup of the radiation from Japan, the obviously fake birth certificate, the hoopla over OBL being murdered, the blowing of the Missouri levee destroying farmland the GOM disaster and on and on

it is as if they are being so blatant that if you don't 'get it ' now you deserve your fate



ave caesar. morituri te salutamus


indeed !

but I ain't rolling over easy

eta

Illegitimi non carborundum


They're really laying it on thick, with they're - any one who dares question their fairy tale crap is an al CIAda sympathizer, conspiracy nutjob.

Everyone is reading the party line. Those old Russians commies would be so proud.
mrmitosis
I'm not sure if this is the point you're driving at, AC, but it seems to me that the US government (or Israel, or whoever controls it) is planning to use everything you've just said as a pretext to blame Pakistan for protecting OBL.

I'm watching the Australian Prime Minister discussing the suspect nature of Pakistan's role right now, as I type this.

It blows my mind to contemplate that we live in times when an entire country can be turned into a patsy and/or a scapegoat. Then again, that's exactly what happened in the case of Iraq.

We'll see how this plays out. I'm probably jumping the gun a little too early. But to me, this seems like the most likely scenario.
onesliceshort
Nice OP Albert.

Kakul is a military academy not too far from Abbottabad which trains ISI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lSEcu3TWM0

BBC propaganda piece but a good indicator of the level of military activity in the area:



QUOTE
Abbottabad, at 1220 meters (4000 feet) is named after James Abbott, a British Administrator, who served in Hazara Division, part of North West Frontier Province of present Pakistan, in the 1840ís and 50ís. It is known as the military town, full of soldiers exercising, parading, playing polo and practicing the bagpipes.

http://www.pakistanarmy.gov.pk/AWPReview/T...267&rnd=469


I'm not falling for the "Pakistan knew" diversion, btw, just trying to figure out their next move in this weird propaganda piece.

The staged images of Hilary and Barak allegedly watching were sickeningly pathetic.
onesliceshort
QUOTE (MrM)
We'll see how this plays out. I'm probably jumping the gun a little too early. But to me, this seems like the most likely scenario.


Yep, but it's weird how Pakistan has been willingly used as a patsy from 9/11 (the alleged $100,000 ISI payment to "Atta" - which was another diversion IMHO) to the present day given the western association with India. What's in it for Pakistan?
albertchampion
here are the ways i think this story has to be considered[by the way, throw out all the stooges who continue to think that usama and the others performed the events of 11 september 2001].

a. the story is a complete fabrication. total theater. concocted as a prelude to barry's second run for the roses. this would make it tantamount to lbj's imposition of the fraud of the tonkin gulf events.

b. the story is a tailored fabrication. a residence was invaded. and someones may have been murdered by amerika's finest mercenaries[my guess it was blackwater personnel, not usn]. but those murdered weren't usama et alia. it may have been tantamount to ruby's extermination of lee. someone who knew what wasn't supposed to be known had to be eliminated with extreme prejudice, and a "legend" was scripted to cloak the hit.

c. the assault was a complete fuck-up. a totally innocent family residence was invaded and people were killed. because the usg has become notorious in pakistan for this kind of trigger happy level of homiciding, the error is being covered-up by claiming that it was an attack on usama.

those are the scenarios that i can suss.

but the victim was not usama. usama has been dead for over a decade. and he had nothing to do with the events of 11/09/01. he and all the others were patsies. to cover up the coup d'etat.

no matter what the sheep want to think, the enemy has never been usama. it has always been the usg. and still is.

ipso facto
maturin42
Just watching Maddow. She recited a bewildering catalog of conflicting stories around the "raid", all different, continuing the bewildering confusion of the initial announcements that paraded through initially. Since then, I have sensed that a sea change has taken place in the media and they all seem to be reading from a deep state script written perhaps by Cass Sunstein - you guarantee informational diversity by throwing up a wall of bullshit, all different, and tell the American people that they are special, after all. We have prevailed in the face of our mortal enemy. Jon Stewart said "we're back, baby!" and the studio audience goes nuts. From the midnight announcement to burial at sea, to the quick DNA test, all of it designed to say "in your face, truthers and sheeple. The news is what the fuck we say it is, so go ahead and confront that no-brow jock on his fifth victory shot and tell him about free-fall speed".

Albert, thank you for putting a more informed voice to what I have been turning over in my mind. Doesn't make me feel any better but it makes a little more sense. This has the look of a psy-op that they worked on and prepared for about 10 years.
onesliceshort
@Maturin

yeah, just within the past hour or so it's being claimed that "OBL" wasn't armed. That "OBL" didn't throw his wife in front of him. But now they've added a "firefight" with "bodyguards". Their bodies?

Now, I say we should be patient. I want to see how they handle..

1) The "burial at sea" - likely to be a sack of potatoes wrapped in a Muslim shroud.

2) The alleged images of his body - they claim it is "gruesome", so we can expect a bloodied unidentifiable "corpse"/photoshop image

3) What's going to be the most interesting part for me. How are they going to handle the "injured wife"? Held in custody? Swept away to God knows where? Suicide? Murdered for "informing" on her husband? Blood poisoning from the "leg wound"? A head to toe veiled "interview" (the least likely scenario IMO)?

I agree 100% with you Maturin. The handling of this has been shoddy and is a middle finger up to those of us who are more informed than most.
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