How can one argue the point of not being "safe". Everyone wants to be "safe" and who better than experts armed with hopefully common sense, experience and databases of Darwin Award candidates worldwide. We will "save lives", build a better world right? Yet what else are we saving.
Insurance company payouts, thats what.
http://www.iccsafe.org/Pages/default.aspx

"People helping people buld a safer world", how can one argue with that?
Saving lives. What else are we saving. Insurance company payouts.
Insurance company payouts. Who has money to influence, make policy, engineer compliance to that policy. Ask any financial planner about "whole life".

My personal testimony plus incomplete research.

Older Multi-family dwellings are now effectively cost ineffective but high density housing is not. If you own one cost prohibitive code updates mandated by your local "code enforcement official", they used to be local building inspectors (homeland security mentality aside)

Inlaw apartments are now "illegal"
There are far more costly institutions by which the state can care for your aging Mom and Dad and or
you can dash those survivalist plans of grouping extended family members together for lifestyle maintennance because nobody may have stable and secure job options in this bend over and take the globalization grease world. In my Dad's generation the moms could stay home. I was and continue to observe the sometimes bizzare compliance syndrome social engineering personality quirks inherent in my kids whom I did NOT bring up "that way".

They can and did however build condos in which the guy in "unit 13" can open his window and spit into the "wetlands protection" swamp or "green" houses with cathedral ceilings making huge cubic footage heating/cooling requirements, but hey, they have "rated" windows, insulation etc. The houses built upon the swamp I skated on as a kid, the five acre lot my wife and I wanted to buy but discovered was in the 100 year flood plain and could NEVER be developed.......Got three houses on it now. One guy was rumored to have taken the loss via a "gas leak".
Oh, the guy in condo unit 13? It (the development) was billed as "affordable". Affordable? $549,000 Plus being such a small living space on top of being so subject to rules and regulations as to afford mostly only electronic type lamestream media as "entertainment" thus further adding to and complimenting upon Charolette Iserbyte's putrid Pavlovianisms of American socially engineered society. Is that/was that Over the top?

"They" don't want you as a homeowner doing your own work on your own house, even single family. They want you to pass the money around and make detailed engineered expensive plans for even simple repairs. Inspectional fees are based upon cost estimates of work done, by certified, licensed, registered, taxpaying, workmen's comp listed, CDL, Title Five, Green rated (1010org exploding non-compliant people aside).


So, the house I planned on sustaining my retirement is history.
The job I loved, was good at, paid me decently with medical/dental/vacation/educational opportunities plus afforded a decent amount of egalitarian scientific status is now in "communist" china, yeah, that china of super pollution Beijing Olympics fame.
I have no medical/dental nor days off but only week to week temp employment in a dying dead end enterprise owned by a Dick Cheney wannabe.

The blessing/curse of may you live in "Interesting Times" continues as we descend into third world status and it all advanced with 911.

Words of wisdom? Don't rescue me.

Put out the fire yourself lest the code enforcement officers descend upon thee and condem thy house

Calling the fire department because your broke one of those mandatory twisty energy saving mercury light bulbs will get you and expensive hazmat bill.

OK so let's say I won the ten million dollar lottery and installed the central wired fire, carbon monoxide, green windows, handicapped access options, defined parking spaces, landscaping, enviormental impact statement I still have to register the alarm system against "excessive" false alarms?

Deep woods. survivalist retreat, lots of guns,lots of food and no TV. Sorry it turned into a rant but check it out in your geographic local in globo-corp world.

My local black-box elected local town council is trying to bring in a huge number of united nation approved, new building regulations, too.
They read as very draconian.
"Thow shalt not" stamped all over it.
i think it is world wide, push.

agenda 21, baaaby. we are all gonna need permission to breathe (or at least exhale).

(".......)
I speak unto you who are the rulers of the many nations, whether you be rulers by
inheritance or election, and whichever title you may bear. Hear me, for I speak unto you all!

Make it your common goal that each of you shall become the best and most worthy person of your nation.
Demand much of yourselves, that you may demand much of others. Be beyond reproach in your dealings,
that all may respect, honour and love you. Choose your counsellors with great care and wisdom, and
choose them from among those who are unselfish, truthful, wise and just. Protect the weak, the poor and
the oppressed. Be unselfish in your care for the welfare of the nations and the peoples. Never act against
that which your conscience tells you to be truth and justice.

Do not gain dominion over the realms of others by force or by cunning, and never compel the people of
other nations to submit in humility to your rule; for all this is of the evil!
(.......)

----------------

I speak unto you who are the givers of laws, unto you who in numerous ways take part in the
various kinds of governance in the nations and the states. Hear me, for I speak unto you all!

Make it your common goal fully and with all your might to serve the country and the people to which you
belong. Prepare your laws as though you yourselves should be judged by each and every statute, for then
will your laws be just.

Do not by guile or with deceit force yourselves into high positions that are not rightfully yours and which
you cannot properly fill. Be truthful to the utmost and be sincere in all your speech.
Never act against your conscience, indeed, never act upon selfish thoughts of personal gain! Cease all your
disgraceful strife and quarreling. Never hurl bitter or hateful words against those who share not your beliefs.
Do not besmirch the name and honour of your adversaries by false accusations, by untrue and wicked slander.
Be meek toward one another. Go to meet one another, seek to work in mutual peace and understanding, that
you may best further the interests of the nations and the peoples.


Yea, truly, I say unto you: your obligations are many, and your responsibility is great; I ask you therefore
carefully to consider that which I have said unto you. For you shall know that if out of selfishness or faintness
of heart you give not care unto the poor, unto the suffering and to the unfortunate,
then shall you surely taste the want and misery of the homeless and the poor in your coming lives
upon the Earth until you have learnt to take pity on your unfortunate fellow human beings.
(.......")
(Quoted from the "Life after death" thread in this forum).



Or to speak in a more 'earthly' tone:

Those who are besotted with lust for power, or besotted with lust for power and monetary gains -

or those who experiences 'hitlerabesque orgasms' just by the thoughts thereof - should never

participate in any way possible in the affairs of the state, as this will only lead to utter destruction

and ruin.

But not only that: These unfortunate 'sods' must completely rebuilt their 'personalities', by starting

all over again from the lowest layers of human society, in future incarnations.

We wouldn't want this to happen to these poor 'beings', so the only way to prevent this, is to ban

such people from any involvement in public life and thus restrict them to only operate in private

'enterprises'!

They would thus maintain their 'free will', but not their 'free will' to destroy the rest of human kind!

So let it be -


Cheers

amen t-man, and in the interests of expediency, i suggest we make every effort to send the effers to their next incarnation w/o delay.

Steady on Dear GP - everything should take its due course .....

I fancy more a 'concentration camp' where they can sit and concentrate

on whatever they feel like concentrating on, every moment they got left

of their earthly life.


After all, we're supposed to be the 'goodies and the sane', are we not?

And hence, no more of this 'killing business' - i humbly suggest!


Cheers

fair enough, if they are willing to go quietly...