muhammadcolumbo
Jan 7 2007, 09:23 AM
tocarm,
Again you are right. That's a big question. I share almost all of what you wrote.
But we must be realistic: Perfect world does not exist. There are some lies everywhere. In some countries it's bigger. And we can say, in USA the lies are the biggest of whole world. The churche's lies are not small also.
What can we do? Just do our best to survive and remain in the right way. We are not responsible more. Nobody can ask us more than what we are able to do. The true responsibles are the peopel who own power, money and order and pay for those huge lies.
In my "6th feeling" I thing the power and money are owned by jews people and they are doing all these lies and worse things to make themself the superior community of the world and protect Israel. For that they use USA and most of the western christian countries, but also all available technology in electronics, aerospace, media, movies, propaganda, ... What for? Sure, for Power! I have not proof for that. That's only a feeling.
Any way, what can we do? Just do right and propose the truth and propose peace. Everybody can do that. Anywhere he lives.
In that way, finding the truth about 911 is one of the major issues to propose the truth to the humanity. Because 911 is a step further behind the border of the truth. It's a big crime made by the "LIERS" (or evil forces if you prefer). And it's important to find the truth about it. When we will do that truth, we'll have done most of what we can do.
Let's don't forget 911! Let's focus to find strong evidences.
Muhammad
tocarm
Jan 7 2007, 10:51 AM
Dear MuhammedColumbo,
Now I'm a US citizen as well as Catholic Christian of the Roman Rite. I'm a US citizen because I was born in this country and I'm a Catholic Christian by virtue of not only my baptism into the Church, but by giving my ascent to the THEOLOGICAL as well as SPIRITUAL Teaching of my Church.
The same "spiritual/personal/character" flaws, blunders and utter moral failures of those who've promoted/propelled themselves into "leadership" positions at all levels of my US Government as well as US society are equally exhibited in the ecclesiastical leadership of my Church.
Nevertheless, we human beings NEED a 'State' on account of our a) human nature's necessity of being 'social' beings who need a human community within which to both develope as well as exercise/experience/enjoy our humanity and B) none of us have all the 'right skills', the 'right talents', the 'right strenghts' etc in order to develope/exercise/experience/enjoy our humanity - this ontological and theological fact that we are "incarnate spirits".
And yes, we human beings NEED a 'Church' as well on account of possessing an "incarnate spirit" precisely on account of that fact that that incarnate spirits gives us an "infinite appetite" for what is 'good'. Hence, we need the proper 'education in Divine Things' lest we fall into the 'infinite chasm' of our own personal projections, myths, foibles, errors, self-deceptions etc.
Regarding these 'The Powers That Be' that reign preconceived suffering, misery, anguish, strife, 'terror', wars and relentless 'killing fields' for all peoples of all nations in our world these past 5 centuries thereabouts, MY CHURCH made the horrendous blunder/mistake of allowing apostate/Kabbalah practicing individuals sharing what they refer to as their 'religous/ethic' heritage to begin managing the finacial affairs of what were once Christian 'kingdoms' and 'nations'.
The proper spiritual development of the 'Nature of the State' and its manifold moral/ethical responsibilities to other Nations/States, to its own citizens and the citizens personal moral/ethical responsibilities to his fellow man and to his State
was still being "worked out" WHILE all nations/states/people had to struggle with developing their 'mastery' over natural things in Creation via the 'sciences' coupled with the widespread ignorance/illteracy/superstitions of the larger segments of the populace as well an intergrating/incorporating a theologically SOUND 'World View' of how to manage, stimulate and regulate all of the foregoing with a TRULY Christian economic/financial system SO THAT all human beings could then develop their minds, hearts, souls and spirits to conincide with the Desires of God's Will had not developed at all as well (save, for except, in such very close knit social structures such as monastaries which, in my opinion upon reflection, ought to have served as a 'Model' for all of European socieities/nations emerging from the collapse of the Roman Empire.
The very early Christian hermits preformed an invaluable spiritual service to the struggling-to-arise-to-its-potential human race. The 'abandoned' everything so as in order to gain both 'mastery' as well as 'insight' INTO the human spirit of mankind - something like what the early grave robbers of Europe did in order to discect, analyze and understand the biological workings of the physical body of a human being.
The early Christian hermits 'analyzed' the DEFECTS of their human spirit (much as diagnosing a physical disease/ailment) and presented their findings to the larger human community of men, women and children everywhere. They listed the 7 major DEFECTS/DISEASES/DEFORMITIES of the human spirit in what is called in my Church "The Seven Deadly Sins" - Hubris/Pride, Avarice, Gluttony, Lust, Sloth, Envy, Jealousy & Wrath.
"The Powers That Be" who have propelled themselves as 'the movers and shakers of human history' - all of them, every last one of them - is thoroughly eaten up, thoroughly infected and thoroughly consumed the these '7 Deadly Sins'.
I share all of this with you in order to qualify what my prognosis for the near future of the human race and it's chances of survival - surviving itself as it employs its own technological wizardry AGAINST itself:
"It's going to take an ACT OF GOD for the human race to save itself from its own suicidal impluses and murderous hands."
- tocarm
muhammadcolumbo
Jan 7 2007, 03:40 PM
Dear Tocarm,
Sorry, some of your explanations uses difficult religous speakings that I do not well understand them. I do not share some of others.
Wery shortly, for me faith/religion means teaching the well being, well doing, well respecting, being free and responsible, peace of mind, being healthy, quite, ... All humans have equivalent abilities, power, mind, ... Religious difference can never be an argument for selecting people. We are responsible on our actions.
But I do not have enough time to linger in these subjects NOW! Later we can start it again. If you know how much I am busy, you'll really understand.
NOW, I want to focus 911 investigation. So please, let's get the photos of the landing arm of a 737-400!
tocarm
Jan 7 2007, 11:45 PM
All of Human History encompasses the actions, activities and their individual and collective behavior(s) they undertake with their FREE WILL while aboard this spinning globe we ALL call planet earth.
This spinning globe of ours - planet earth - revolves around its Sun, taking about 365 days to make a complete 360 degree orbit around the sun.
Human History is meaured in "time" and the unit of time virtually all peoples of this planet earth have used or used is a SOLAR year.
During the course of Human History - all sorts of human beings have gotten hordes of other human beings to "undertake" a certain 'mode of behavior' which has resulted in all manner of human consequence - political, military empires have risen and fallen - all sorts of technologies have been developed and employed - all sorts of human cultural expression have occurred - music, poetry, literature, the arts, etc.
The primordial/essential differences between Christianity and Islam resides IN the identification of the personal identity of Jesus, the Christ. Islam asserts/teaches that Jesus was "just a man" who was a prophet however. The Christian Faith asserts/teaches that Jesus was not only "a man" but that He was God Who took on our human nature SO THAT we might all learn about this God Who just so happened TO CREATE both the Sun, the planet earth as well as every last human being who had ever lived, is living and who might come to the possession of human life in the future.
From this Catholic Christian's POV, human history is more or less a very long and continuing saga of human beings all across this planet earth of ours who have REJECTED direct Divine Revelation/Teachings from God Incarnate Himself.
9-11 is but yet another single, isolated HISTORIC episode of mankind expressing his/her/their personal REJECTION of God Incarnate's Revelation, Teachings and Commands.
9-11 is but ONE of the many spiritual/religious/moral/ethical/theological BATTLES between, amongst mere human beings as well as FOR and AGAINST the welfare and wellbeing of the entire human race (or at least large sections/segments of the human race) being fought in our day and age since that HISTORICAL EVENT of God Incarnate's Birth roughly 2,000 years ago in the town of Bethlehem.
"Do you suppose that I am here to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For now on a household of five will be divided; three against two and two against three, the father divided against teh son, the son divided against father; mother against daughter, daughter against mother; mother-in-law against daughter-in-law, daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."
- The Gospel according to St. Luke - Luke 12:51-53
Human History since the time of the Birth and earthly Ministry of Christ can be summed up by a single verse found in the Gospel of St. John:
"He (Jesus) was in the world
that had its being through Him
and the world did not know Him
He came into His Own domain
and His Own people did not accept Him." - John 1:10-11
So you see, US 5 Star General Douglas MacArthur was "dead on" when he posited the following while in Occupied Japan following VJ day:
"The world struggle is not political or economic. Rather, it is religious and theological. It is either God or atheism."
And one of his friends and co-commander of US Armed Forces during WWII put it this way for one and all to consider:
"We have penetrated the mystery of the atom and failed to grasp the meaning of the Sermon on the Mount." - US Army General Omar Bradley
Those two comments from two US Armed Forces Generals pretty much sums up the ENTIRETY OF HUMAN HISTORY since the Birth of Christ. And Human History AIN'T going to get one iota better in the next few future years as well.
- tocarm
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