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Method
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>"The Men Who Killed Kennedy: The Final Chapter" - Episodes 7-9</span>


All three of these episodes of this History Channel documentary are banned from further television broadcast and commerical distribution in the United States. I've been trying to quite some time to get my hands on some copies of The Final Chapter and a friend of mine at another forum I frequent came across these when he was doing some research into JFK. I would recommend watching these A.S.A.P. if you have any interest in the Kennedy assissination or the Warren Commission because who knows how much longer these will be up before YouTube censors them.
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gideon524
I have all 9 episodes including the three banned ones in their entirety recorded straight from the History Channel the year of the 40th anniversary of his death. Pretty decent quality too.
datars
I have been the main Contributor of these three parts for years. I have the DVD to the first 6 parts. Some one does have the DVD to the last three, but I have not yet been able to locate him.

The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Part 7: Smoking Guns: (The Secret Service failings and possible autopsy fraud and cover-up)

The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Part 8: Love Affair: (A Woman comes forward claiming to be Lee Harvey Oswald's mistress.)

The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Part 9: Guilty Men: (See the allegations that Lyndon B. Johnson had JFK killed.)

Torrent posted here for part 7 to 9

Torrent posted here for the first 6 parts


Vistit these pages
http://dvds.aldokkan.com/05UW74.html

http://www.blackopradio.com/fetzer1.html

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_..._Issue/bca.html

http://www.waidev2.com/php/IMAGES/HC_TV_Pr...662---Image.jpg

http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv...gramme_1662.php

http://jfkawards.50megs.com/patsy.htm

Lasting Questions about the Murder of President Kennedy
http://history-matters.com/essays/jfkgen/L...g_Questions.htm

GREAT CRIMES AND TRIALS: The Assassination Of Robert Kennedy
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv...gramme_1145.php
FM258
QUOTE (Method @ Jan 17 2007, 10:51 AM)
"The Men Who Killed Kennedy: The Final Chapter" - Episodes 7-9


All three of these episodes of this History Channel documentary are banned from further television broadcast and commerical distribution in the United States. I've been trying to quite some time to get my hands on some copies of The Final Chapter and a friend of mine at another forum I frequent came across these when he was doing some research into JFK. I would recommend watching these A.S.A.P. if you have any interest in the Kennedy assissination or the Warren Commission because who knows how much longer these will be up before YouTube censors them.

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Carl Bank
Hey Method, Gideon, Datars and folks.

Sorry for not having the time right now to see it,
but can you answer a question?

For all I learned about JFK, it was his driver William Greer,
who shot him.

(Greer turned around and shot him dirctly in the forehead,
and Jackie tried to escape from Greer over the trunk, which can be
seen in the Zapruder film.)

Is this mentioned in this series or is there something new?

Carl
paranoia
QUOTE (Method @ Jan 17 2007, 10:56 AM)
TMWKK, The Final Chapter, ep.1 The Smoking Gun, seg.3



hey man im still watching the series (thanks a bunch btw), but i couldnt get any sound on this one. i thought u might want to know.
paranoia
QUOTE (Method @ Jan 17 2007, 11:00 AM)
TMWKK, The Final Chapter, ep.1 The Smoking Gun, seg.5



no sound on this one either. darn!


edit:
a whole bunch in a row after this one dont have any sound either, but im not sure if its my pc or the vidz themselves. please forgive me if its my comp, but i wont know until i shut it on/off/on again.
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Method
QUOTE (FM258 @ Jan 18 2007, 06:07 PM)
QUOTE (Method @ Jan 17 2007, 10:51 AM)
"The Men Who Killed Kennedy: The Final Chapter" - Episodes 7-9


All three of these episodes of this History Channel documentary are banned from further television broadcast and commerical distribution in the United States. I've been trying to quite some time to get my hands on some copies of The Final Chapter and a friend of mine at another forum I frequent came across these when he was doing some research into JFK. I would recommend watching these A.S.A.P. if you have any interest in the Kennedy assissination or the Warren Commission because who knows how much longer these will be up before YouTube censors them.

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Method
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no sound on this one either. darn!


edit:
a whole bunch in a row after this one dont have any sound either, but im not sure if its my pc or the vidz themselves. please forgive me if its my comp, but i wont know until i shut it on/off/on again.
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I just checked the one's you mentioned and I'm getting sound. dunno.gif
Cary
I finally finished watching all of them yesterday. Outstanding series. Thanks Method.
Method
QUOTE (Cary @ Jan 19 2007, 01:17 PM)
I finally finished watching all of them yesterday. Outstanding series. Thanks Method.

Your welcome. cheers.gif


FM258 brought them to my attention. salute.gif
gideon524
QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Jan 19 2007, 04:43 AM)
For all I learned about JFK, it was his driver William Greer,
who shot him.

(Greer turned around and shot him dirctly in the forehead,
and Jackie tried to escape from Greer over the trunk, which can be
seen in the Zapruder film.)

Is this mentioned in this series or is there something new?

Carl

Carl,

Of all the the stuff I've seen on JFK, I just learned about the driver a few months ago since Oliver Stone's movie, JFK, crops the driver out of the fatal head shot frame. It's been a while since I've watched The Men Who Killed Kennedy so I can't remember if the driver is ever mentioned but I'd say "no" since I don't ever remember him being brought to my attention until just a few months ago.
JackD
Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

The case was so obvious, that Lyndon Johnson had the Continental refurbished a couple of days later. I mean, we all saw Oswald's picture in the papers in the mugshot.
What more did redblooded americans need to know?

we were presented with the choices. and there was but one:
Oswald acted alone.


What's all the conspiracy talk about?

(wink)
jo56
Just finished watching the whole series. I had heard some of the theories, but came away with a lot of new names as part of the conspiracy.

This is a great series, and believeable!

It's just hideous what these cowards have done, and for so long.

Thx Method, for posting these. New material for me.
Method
QUOTE (jo56 @ Jan 19 2007, 08:00 PM)
Just finished watching the whole series. I had heard some of the theories, but came away with a lot of new names as part of the conspiracy.

This is a great series, and believeable!

It's just hideous what these cowards have done, and for so long.

Thx Method, for posting these. New material for me.

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Carl Bank
QUOTE (gideon524 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:46 PM)
Carl,

Of all the the stuff I've seen on JFK, I just learned about the driver a few months ago since Oliver Stone's movie, JFK, crops the driver out of the fatal head shot frame.  It's been a while since I've watched The Men Who Killed Kennedy so I can't remember if the driver is ever mentioned but I'd say "no" since I don't ever remember him being brought to my attention until just a few months ago.

Here is the theory by the godfather of the truth movement, William Cooper,
which names Greer as the one who shot JFK:

Google Video - William Cooper: JFK Assassin Unmasked

Carl
Carl Bank
QUOTE (JackD @ Jan 20 2007, 12:44 AM)
Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

The case was so obvious, that Lyndon Johnson had the Continental refurbished a couple of days later.  I mean, we all saw Oswald's picture in the papers in the mugshot.
What more did redblooded americans need to know?

we were presented with the choices. and there was but one:
Oswald acted alone.


What's all the conspiracy talk about?

(wink)

Tell me, what Oswalds benefits were. And take this in the consideration:
JFK was about to create a US-currency that is a real US-currency and
isn't borrowed by the Federal Reserve anymore. This might give you a hint
of the ones who really benefitted of the assasination.
And remember Lincoln and what he wanted to do in a similar way.


If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and acts like a duck,
it's no conspiracy theory when one assumes that it is an animal from the
family of the antinae
, says: Carl
Carl Bank
I've only read it before, that William Greer, the driver of the
car in which JFK was assasinated, shot him directly in his face.

Until today, the only kind of evidence for me for that, was that
Jackie was trying to crawl away from the driver over the trunk.
What woman would crawl on a trunk of a moving car for any reason whatsoever?

I read that there was some japanese analysis of the Zapruder flick,
but never saw it. Here is the presentation by William Cooper now, that
definetely and cristal clear shows Greer shooting Kennedy:



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=11...0186205666634&q

source: educate-yourselve.org
Wingmaster05
The japanese edition was the most visible, you get the best shot at it in that one. But I didn't think it was clear in any sense of the word. Without a person narrating it, and showing it 5+ times to engrain the idea, it becomes a lot more obtuse as to what happened. I can barely see the driver move to look at the president, and i think i see his arm parallel to the ground, yet when i look even closer (at frame 313) it appears as though his arm has magically disappeared and the background curb of the road is exactly where the arm 'was'. :ph43r:

People say its been manipulated, and no wonder, the film wasnt released into the public eye for about 7 years after the incident.


More to my point, what does this prove except to ourselves that Greer shot the president? AFAIK you can't take this to court and set the record books straight, it's too inconclusive (despite what Cooper says). Most of us here already knew it was CIA anti-Castro operatives and the like involved in the assassination, Greer was just another minion with the gun. LET"S GET THE PLANNERS OF THE ASSASSINATION, SHALL WE?


I had never heard much of anything on robert groden either. I'm glad he updated us all on his position...

I still think y'all should watch it despite my pessimistic tone. Cooper says some interesting things and his rant against Groden is worth noting.

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KILL YOUR TV!
I took a look at this Greer thing earlier in the year and I must say it's very convincing. Greer has the best shot - for everyone else it's a moving target. It makes a lot of sense. You an also see that Greer looks back after the first shot, sees that JFK is wounded but still alive and then finishes the job. I believe that Greer was the Plan B in the whole operation.

Interesting to note that Stone's "JFK" and other films which push the Grassy Knoll Theory make us look at Kennedy's head moving "back and to the left". They take the same Zapruder footage and zoom in on the left half of the film, conveniently pushing Greer's actions out of frame. see:

( warning: graphic )



Strange how "Conspiracy Theories" can be forged to completely distract you from the real "smoking gun".

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EDIT: though I do believe it was Greer, I don't believe it is a gun that we see ( highlighted in the Japanese study ) - rather it is a light reflection of his passenger's head. I believe the gun was hidden from view.
lunk
I don't remember where I was at the time,
because I was born after this event, but
from my reading of this thread, Greer was
there to administer the coup de grace.

imo, lunk
maturin42
QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Oct 7 2007, 01:32 PM)
I've only read it before, that William Greer, the driver of the
car in which JFK was assasinated, shot him directly in his face.

Until today, the only kind of evidence for me for that, was that
Jackie was trying to crawl away from the driver over the trunk.
What woman would crawl on a trunk of a moving car for any reason whatsoever?


I have always thought that Jackie was trying to retrieve a piece of his skull or scalp or brain from the trunk of the car. She appears to be trying to reach something, not trying to get away.

I would like to see the film after it was subjected to enhancement. It is far too fuzzy to be conclusive in all the forms I have seen it.
lunk
QUOTE (maturin42 @ Oct 9 2007, 03:20 PM)
I would like to see the film after it was subjected to enhancement. It is far too fuzzy to be conclusive in all the forms I have seen it.

It's a heck of a lot clearer than
the single digit pentagron frames!

imo, lunk
FM258
JHC Greer did NOT shoot Kennedy, this is complete horseshit.

This 'evidence' is not only dubious, its non existent.

Head shot came from the front right of JFK.
FM258
I have a good friend who is totally into all this stuff...gets excited about every damn theory ever proposed....but does very little critical thinking of his own and I find myself reigning him in....he is hugely into AJ and talks alot about aliens... sh*t is bad folks, but its not as bad as some will have you think...the financial market IMO is the biggest thing we have to worry about, not aliens, not nucular war, not terrists...he is actually the one who first showed this 'proof' to me a few weeks ago.

A. No mussle flash
B. No recoil....I dare any of you guys to fire a .38+ cal handgun with no recoil.


Please do not take this 'disinfo' seriously.... if he did shoot JFK, do you really think Jackie would send him a card of thanks after the funeral??


Dont fall victim to this madness.
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datars
The driver was in on the assassination of JFK, but he had NO Part in shooting JFK. The shooter was in the storm Drain.
WetBlanket
It appears the driver knew what was going on but i can't see him shooting. Check this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rcdBNFnGs

I have also seen another different film from the other side which doesn't jive exactly.
CocaineImportAgency
notice how Senator Connelly leans right back into the woman behind him a second before the fatal shot!... the shot came from front right of the President... then view the video full screen and see if you think the head of the man next the driver has been manipulated!... thats your assassin!... in my opinion!
beatles64
I don't know if I am completely sure about this...but I have a strong feeling that the Drain was were the bullet was fired...it just seems to make more sense that way in terms of cover, escape, and angle.....I don't have experience in any relative fields for this discussion though so I am just adding my two cents....hmm...I wonder how many pounds that would be?
Nagelfar
The chauffeur shot Kennedy?

Complete BS IMO. What a silly idea.
jadenter
QUOTE (Nagelfar @ May 6 2008, 02:20 AM) *
The chauffeur shot Kennedy?

Complete BS IMO. What a silly idea.


If you don't see the limo driver shoot JFK in the two previous versions in this thread (Bill Cooper's, or Oliver Stone's), then watch the first four minutes of our P4T member Domenick DiMaggio CIT 's documentary titled Reichstag II. Watch William Greer, the limo driver, not JFK. It's at 3:53 minutes into the google video version.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=415613330467496030

Greer was not the only shooter in Dealey Plaza that day, but my money is on Greer as one of the shooters. The "pistol" over the limo driver's right shoulder occurs at the very instant when JFK's head goes back and explodes... "back and to the left".

Notice the sprocket portion of the Zapruder film in this version, that is missing from the other two (and most versions of the Zapruder Film). As most issues in JFK's assassination, the authentic copy as original, and possible tampering of the Zapruder film has been questioned by many experts.

Jeff
beatles64
I don't know, somehow I got the original feeling that it was edited, than I watched more and that feeling went away, but that could have due to repeated views. I don't have the background for a true call anyways so dont mind me unsure.gif
amazed!
A friend of mine, retired from the FBI tells me that he once interviewed a fellow in prison for some other case, and that fellow claimed he shot JFK from the front, and that he had spent some time with Oswald, but they did not discuss an assassination, but other things.

The guy's name was James Files. I put it in Google, and it is an interesting story. Mob, all the way.
Trapster
There are several points of evidence that support the assertion that the Limo Driver was the shooter.

1) The video above showing the Driver turn his head toward JFK and fire the pistol with his left hand.

2) Just before the limo turns into Dealy Plaza, the President's secret service body guards who are running next to the limo are called off by the President's director of security.

3) The limo, as seen from other film shot at that moment, almost comes to a complete stop in front of the Grassy Knoll just as after other shots are fired into the limo and just before the President's head explodes. This was Greer taking his foot off the gas to give himself the moment to steady his shot. Slowing down and keeping the limo in a straight line is exactly the opposite of what the driver was trained to do.

4) The Secret Service director in Dallas on the radio moments after the assassination saying that 'they' finally 'got him'.

JFK was not the only Office Holder to end up assassinated in an open car. Recall a certain Arch Duke in Sarajevo in 1914. Yep, that too was a staged event.
albertchampion
you will never know the truth about this "hit".

all the evidence was destroyed, compromised.

for example, the limo was removed, then cleaned and repaired.

the chain of custody of the body was destroyed. the autopsy should have been performed at parkland, but the ss would not allow that.

there was never a definitive identification of the decedent.

and of course, the warren commission report was a complete fraud.

as i have written previously, the hit was collaborative[a conspiracy]. it was a collision of interests provoked by the assassinations of ngo dinh diem and ngo dinh nhu.

the armature for the collaboration was the opium/heroin trade. everyone involved in that traffic saw the events of 1-2/11/63[les fetes des morts - all souls day] as kennedy family attempts to take control of that trade.

never forget, the ngo family was at the top of the trade. they controlled the opium coming into cholon. coming into the corsican mafia that transmitted the opium to marseilles for refining.

who else saw themselves being cut out of the traffic by the removal of diem and nhu. well, their brother for one. ngo dinh thuc, the archbishop of hue[the first asian prelate of the catholic church]. the corsican mafia. the sicilian, jewish and neapolitan mafia[carlos marcello, santos trafficante, lucky luciana, gianni roselli, meyer lansky, sam giancana, carlos gambino, joe bonnano, et alia]. the vatican. the oas[organization armee secrete], comprised of officers in the post ww2 french indochina war, who were taking a piece of the action to finance their attempts to assassinate charles de gaulle.

and then there was the american ambassador to vietnam. who was the action officer for the ngo hits. henry cabot lodge. a massachusetts reptillian. with a long-term family tie to the opium trade. with long-term ties to what might be considered rogues[think bush family].

and then a host of intell services. fbi. cia. oni. mi6. sdece. and who knows how many were taking a piece of the opium/heroin traffic that they saw as being taken over by the family of a former bootlegger.

the final question remains, who was assassinated in dallas that day. john fitzgerald kennedy? or a double?

i personally think it was a double. principally because the decedent was never fingerprinted. and no investigation of the adrenals was conducted. the autopsists[not autopsists] were selected, ordered not to perform a definitive forensic investigation.

so, when did jfk really die? either before the election or shortly afterwards.

his brother's[rfk] hit, was another bit of revenge for the ngo brothers' hit. sirhan was another patsy.

teddy was supposed to die in a lightplane accident. and he almost did. and he was set up to drown at chappaquiddick. and he almost did.

i continue to think that ngo dinh thuc has been responsible. revenge for the deaths of his brothers.

thuc died in 1984.
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