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guttersponge
Ok Im going to out on a limb. A very long thin limb.
I have been learning some street magic tricks by Brad Christian, David Blaine etc. And one thing these tricks have in common is misdirection.
This is the sort of thing that we have all fallen for numerous times at magic shows or on tv.
Well I was in the shower this morning with my mind racing about all the facts regarding the CIA conducting terror attacks and blaming them on Radical groups. This has been proven in a couple videos I have watched in the last few days. I must have seen 50 hours minimum of tapes since friday so I cannot remember which part of which video these were proven. (somebody back me up)
Anyhow this is my puzzle.
I remember watching one of these videos on Ogrish.com ( dicsontinued site ) and the masked terrorists, if I remember correctly, all jumped over the guy at once to cut off his head.
Now it only takes a single blade to do this so what would be the point of surrounding him like that? Any magician can make a switch in the amount of time they were blocked from view. Then all of a sudden here comes the head already seperated from the body. It just seems to be too easy of a trick so I tried finding the videos again with no luck. All the web pages I found that once had these videos are gone.
I know it was gross and it made me sick when I saw it but I would really like to see it again and study it .
Does anybody have any of these on their computer they could give me? Or know a website that still has them?
painter
Sorry, not sure I understand. Are you asking about the Nick Berg beheading?

If so, yes, it is highly suspicious for many reasons -- not the least of which is who and or what was Nick Berg really up to in Iraq.
guttersponge
It was quite awhile back that I watched the clip but I do think that was the one. Id just really like to see the clip.
Cary
I did some searches for the Nick Berg beheading and found one that was covered with mostly pink shading, like some artist had painted over it, making the visual part of it worthless.

But I do remember the video. There's a cut away when he's supposedly attacked by his captors. By the time the video showed Nick Berg's head being lifted, anything could have happened. There was a lot of speculation that Berg was probably killed first and then beheaded because the blood splatter from severing his carotid arteries was no where near consistent with that of a live person. Other speculation centered around a CIA psy op to gain public support for the Iraq war which was just starting to go bad and no WMD's were being found.
chucksheen
QUOTE (Cary @ Mar 28 2007, 11:52 AM)
I did some searches for the Nick Berg beheading and found one that was covered with mostly pink shading, like some artist had painted over it, making the visual part of it worthless.

But I do remember the video. There's a cut away when he's supposedly attacked by his captors. By the time the video showed Nick Berg's head being lifted, anything could have happened. There was a lot of speculation that Berg was probably killed first and then beheaded because the blood splatter from severing his carotid arteries was no where near consistent with that of a live person. Other speculation centered around a CIA psy op to gain public support for the Iraq war which was just starting to go bad and no WMD's were being found.

I have a podcast on CD from GunsAndButter.net.

It's Joseph Calhoun talking about the scenario around the beheading of Nick Berg.

He has some very good points and I will have to listen again.

For one, Nick is wearing an orange Gitmo jumpsuit and the captors were fishy.
guttersponge
I am going to stop now. I know that you know. You know that I know. They know that we know.
Time will tell of the days that have brought us here and the tomorrows these days will bring will be told for centuries. What is opressive will become liberating and the dominate forces will be overcome by the masses. Just as it has taken decades to accomplish our current mindset, it will take decades to undue. It is sure to be a long fight. A long fight indeed. Good luck to you all and I hope you never loose faith.
Guttersponge is out!
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lunk
This is sad, but it could be seen differently.
There is no giving in; there is no giving up, and realy there is no running away...to where?... with what?!?
It's not about money, it's about fear and complacency.
The printing press was invented only a few hundred years ago, and who controlled that industry then?
The only way to get a story out to the public was through letters to the editor. The individual had a very tiny input into the world community. Now, it's even worse, all of the printed, televised and radioed information are, almost all, controlled by a small number of conglomerate companies. Information getting to the public, can be controlled by a few.
But today, there is another factor in this potential totalitarian condition and that is the internet. Never before have we had the ability to get in touch, with almost any other human being on this planet, on a one-to-one basis, or to have our own ideas read, criticized and responded to in a relative instant.
This is the solution, keep going, keep posting, keep researching, keep archiving but most of all keep connected and please, try to be polite.


I don't know who said this, but it's a damn good motto:

"Anyone who thinks that an individual cannot make a difference, has never slept with a mosquito."

cheers lunk
Guinan
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"Anyone who thinks that an individual cannot make a difference, has never slept with a mosquito."


that's a great quote !! Do you mind if I 'steal' it for my signature??

Guinan
Sanders
QUOTE (lunk @ Apr 4 2007, 07:45 AM)
This is sad, but it could be seen differently.
There is no giving in; there is no giving up, and realy there is no running away...to where?... with what?!?
It's not about money, it's about fear and complacency.
The printing press was invented only a few hundred years ago, and who controlled that industry then?
The only way to get a story out to the public was through letters to the editor. The individual had a very tiny input into the world community. Now, it's even worse, all of the printed, televised and radioed information are, almost all, controlled by a small number of conglomerate companies. Information getting to the public, can be controlled by a few.
But today, there is another factor in this potential totalitarian condition and that is the internet. Never before have we had the ability to get in touch, with almost any other human being on this planet, on a one-to-one basis, or to have our own ideas read, criticized and responded to in a relative instant.
This is the solution, keep going, keep posting, keep researching, keep archiving but most of all keep connected and please, try to be polite.


I don't know who said this, but it's a damn good motto:

"Anyone who thinks that an individual cannot make a difference, has never slept with a mosquito."

cheers lunk

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Nice post
lunk
It's not mine, I heard it on public radio--does that make it open source? I don't know, but in these times...go for it!
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