People Likely Criminally Involved in the 9-11 Conspiracy
Saturday, March 10, 2007
Note: In an effort to reclaim the meaning of highly-charged words, the word "defense" is replaced by the word "war" in all USG department names, position titles, and policy boards; for instance, "Secretary of Defense" is retitled "Secretary of War" to more accurately reflect the true nature of the position.
George W. Bush — eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely “signed-off” on 9-11 plot
Dick Cheney — former PNAC member; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several “war games”; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about riming of 9-11 activities
Donald Rumsfeld — former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said “when that missile hit the Pentagon”
Paul Wolfowitz — Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; chief architect of Iraq war; now heads World Bank
Richard Perle — Zionist; former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; nicknamed “Prince of Darkness”
Dov Zakheim — rabid Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; Pentagon comptroller when a trillion dollars was reported missing on 9-10-01; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; possible 9-11 mastermind
George Tenet — Director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the “Medal of Freedom” by Bush for his fine work on 9-11
Robert Mueller — FBI Director on 9-11; under his “leadership”, FBI field agents’ warning of an imminent attack were stifled
Richard Meyers — in charge of USA air defenses on 9-11; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about reasons for air defense failure on 9-11; promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Ralph Eberhardt — NORAD Commander on 9-11; fanatical supporter of missile defense scheme, militarization of space; enthusiastic supporter of merging law enforcement and the military
Larry Arnold — NORAD Commander Major General on 9-11; has used 9-11 to push militarization of USA
Douglas Feith — Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; effectively he and Wolfowitz were in command of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy
Michael Chertoff — Zionist; likely Mossad agent; Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security
Jerome Hauer — “terrorism” expert who put John O'Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings
Jack Abramoff — ardent Zionist; entertained USG “terrorist” patsy Mohammed Atta on his yacht just before 9-11; convicted criminal lobbyist
Philip Zelikow — led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State
Porter Goss — former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after “hookergate”
Bob Graham — former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004
Marc Grossman — Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, on or shortly after 9-11
Richard Armitage — former member of PNAC, Deputy Secretary of State; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, shortly after 9-11
Elliot Abrams — former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair
Lewis “Scooter” Libby — former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame
William Kristol — Zionist; PNAC co-founder; adherent of Leo Strauss; editor of The Weekly Standard; strong advocate of the Iraq war
John Ashcroft — protected “terrorist” patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001
Condi Rice — National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath
Colin Powell — Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre
Jeb Bush — brother of George Bush; PNAC member; Florida governor; guilty of election fraud in 2000; declared martial law in Florida four days before 9-11
Marvin Bush — brother of George Bush; on board of Securacom, US-Kuwaiti company paid $9.2 to manage WTC security October 1996 to 1998; on board of HCC Insurance, big WTC insurer
Wirt Walker — cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11
Larry Silverstein — he and partner Frank Lowy obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; made several billion dollars on 9-11 insurance fraud; admitted to “pulling” WTC 7
Rudolph Giuliani — mayor of New York on 9-11; hailed as “hero” for his “gutsy” leadership on 9-11; allegedly involved with FEMA and former NYC Police Chief Kerik in Operation Code Angel
Bernard Kerik — former NYC Police Chief; “sidekick” of Giuliani; allegedly involved with FEMA in WTC demolition “war games” called Operation Code Angel
A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard — now number three Executive Director at the CIA; until 1998, managed firm used to place “put options” on United Airlines which has left $2.5 million in “profits” unclaimed
Mark Loizeaux — as CEO of CDI was instrumental in “recycling” steel from WTC crime scene; CDI also buried the rubble from the crime scene of the Murrah Federal Building
Benjamin Chertoff — 25-year-old cousin of Michael Chertoff; senior “researcher” for Popular Mechanics’ hit piece on 9-11 Truth Movement
Mahmoud Ahmad — head of Pakistan’s ISI; had Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh wire $100,000 to lead 9-11 “terrorist” patsy Mohammad Atta
Abdussattar Shaikh — FBI informant to the San Diego office; helped bring “terrorist” patsies to USA; protected by Attorney General Ashcroft
Warren Buffett — world's second richest person; was hosting golf charity event at the US Strategic Command headquarters at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha; Bush flew to Offutt afternoon of 9-11
George H.W. Bush — Bush crime family Don; Skull and Bones; CIA operative involved in JFK assassination; former head of CIA; son of friend shot Reagan when he was VP; war profiteer
Tony Blair — British Prime Minister; ally and partner in crime of George Bush; London 7-7 bombings were also “false flag” operations
Benjamin Netanyahu — former Israeli Prime Minister; said 9-11 was “good” for US-Israeli relationship
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Full Version: 42 Most Likely 9/11 Conspirators
Great post and info, thanks.
Found this somewhere and wanted to share:
Found this somewhere and wanted to share:
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so that we get ALL the real perpetrators, legally.
If we can convince 70% of Americans that the government myth is a lie and that we need real investigations and get over 50% to DEMAND new investigations, then we win.
That's the goal, that's what I'm focusing on right now.
Let's get the investigations and let the chips fall were they will.
Right now, there are only a few things we can assert with authority, these include:
1) NORAD failed completely, but we don't know all the why's, who's and how's. General Richard B. Myers, please take the stand.
2) Cheney failed to act when warned in the PEOC about the plane headed toward Washington D.C.
3) Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville, PA. NTSB Chairman Rosenker, please take the stand.
4) Nothing should have happened at the Pentagon, period. Mr. Rumsfeld, please take the stand.
5) WTC 7 is a classic, textbook controlled demolition and housed the second largest CIA office in the world. Mr. Silverstein, please take the stand.
6) WTC 1 and 2 were destroyed by explosive demolitions, perpetrators unknown at this time. Mr. Guiliani, please take the stand.
7) The US Secret Service violated SOP and its basic protocols when dealing with G. W. Bush on the morning of 9/11/01. Director Sullivan, please take the stand.
8) The FBI has admitted that they don't know who the real hijackers were and have "no hard evidence" linking bin Laden to 9/11. Director Mueller, please take the stand.
9) Numerous members of the Bush/Cheney administration had enough foreknowledge to have prevented the "attacks" had they acted on the information they had. Secretary of State Rice, please take the stand.
At this time I think that all I can say with any real confidence and credibility is that Mr. Cheney is guilty of dereliction of duty, should be impeached and tried for treason.
We need real investigations, NOW.
Be well and spread the truth.
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
If we can convince 70% of Americans that the government myth is a lie and that we need real investigations and get over 50% to DEMAND new investigations, then we win.
That's the goal, that's what I'm focusing on right now.
Let's get the investigations and let the chips fall were they will.
Right now, there are only a few things we can assert with authority, these include:
1) NORAD failed completely, but we don't know all the why's, who's and how's. General Richard B. Myers, please take the stand.
2) Cheney failed to act when warned in the PEOC about the plane headed toward Washington D.C.
3) Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville, PA. NTSB Chairman Rosenker, please take the stand.
4) Nothing should have happened at the Pentagon, period. Mr. Rumsfeld, please take the stand.
5) WTC 7 is a classic, textbook controlled demolition and housed the second largest CIA office in the world. Mr. Silverstein, please take the stand.
6) WTC 1 and 2 were destroyed by explosive demolitions, perpetrators unknown at this time. Mr. Guiliani, please take the stand.
7) The US Secret Service violated SOP and its basic protocols when dealing with G. W. Bush on the morning of 9/11/01. Director Sullivan, please take the stand.
8) The FBI has admitted that they don't know who the real hijackers were and have "no hard evidence" linking bin Laden to 9/11. Director Mueller, please take the stand.
9) Numerous members of the Bush/Cheney administration had enough foreknowledge to have prevented the "attacks" had they acted on the information they had. Secretary of State Rice, please take the stand.
At this time I think that all I can say with any real confidence and credibility is that Mr. Cheney is guilty of dereliction of duty, should be impeached and tried for treason.
We need real investigations, NOW.
Be well and spread the truth.
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Hmmm. Who came up with that list, auveliner? That list and what it bases these choices on seems a little less than rigorous to me. Ask yourself if Bob Graham should be on that list when he's also on the list of whistleblowers over at patriiotsquestion911. How was it missed that George Tenet had met with Ahmad in Pakistan in August and was having breakfast with him on 9/11? Or that Jerry Hauer called the White House on 9/11 to tell the staff to take CIPRO?
I agree with the vast majority of these choices, a good start for sure, but there's some holes there IMO.
I agree with the vast majority of these choices, a good start for sure, but there's some holes there IMO.
Certainly a good start, I would ask where are the Dems on the list. Along with the media, they have done more to protect the 9/11 lie from 'leaking.' Who are they protecting and why? Ask yourself how did Nick Rockerfeller know in advance? If he knew most certainly many Democratic leaders knew Senator Rockerfeller. William J Clinton had to have had involvment in at least setting the table. After all he originally signed executive order w199i which Bush renewed in January of 2001. More Dems were involved and expsoing them is just as important.
@ auveliner, I just wanted to add that I didn't want to belittle your contribution in any way - there's a lot of good information in there, some that I wasn't aware of. And as for Bob Graham, I pegged him as a perp a long time ago myself due to the fact that he was with Tenet and Goss in Pakistan the summer before 9/11, eating breakfast with them and General Ahmad on 9/11, and co-chaired the Joint-Congressional 9/11 panel that investigated the intelligence failure. But the fact remains that he has spoken out against the Bush administration and made it known that information was withheld from them when they were investigating 9/11 - his case is VERY enigmatic. He seems like maybe he was privy to certain things but never really went along with it - a potential whistleblower with one little toe in the water at the moment. If that's the case I certainly hopes he jumps in the pool.
I started putting together a list of "bad guys" myself once, it got out of hand, there are so many people out there who don't smell right. I identified over 500 people... people with current or former government roles that have been involved in corrupt activities, or who help run the Federal Reserve, or are heads of multiple corporations etc., and that attend Bilderberg meetings and/or are members of at least 2 or 3 of the other big "clubs" - I tried to exempt anyone that wasn't pretty confirmably "bad", and I still got like 500 names.
But that list does hit some pretty guilty-smelling people, Jerry Hauer and Dov Zakheim are in my top-ten as well. I would also add Maurice Greenberg, Peter Peterson and Henry Kissinger as well, for their globalist connections and their involvement in leasing and insuring the WTC complex.
I started putting together a list of "bad guys" myself once, it got out of hand, there are so many people out there who don't smell right. I identified over 500 people... people with current or former government roles that have been involved in corrupt activities, or who help run the Federal Reserve, or are heads of multiple corporations etc., and that attend Bilderberg meetings and/or are members of at least 2 or 3 of the other big "clubs" - I tried to exempt anyone that wasn't pretty confirmably "bad", and I still got like 500 names.
But that list does hit some pretty guilty-smelling people, Jerry Hauer and Dov Zakheim are in my top-ten as well. I would also add Maurice Greenberg, Peter Peterson and Henry Kissinger as well, for their globalist connections and their involvement in leasing and insuring the WTC complex.
QUOTE (auveliner @ Apr 8 2007, 06:31 PM)
Dov Zakheim — rabid Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; Pentagon comptroller when a trillion dollars was reported missing on 9-10-01; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; possible 9-11 mastermind
Wirt Walker — cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11
Wirt Walker — cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11
The trillions of dollars are missing on 12.Februar 2001:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/ja...llars_2-12.html
Wirt Dexter is not a cousin of George Bush:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirt_Walker
QUOTE (Bolko @ Apr 9 2007, 10:21 AM)
QUOTE (auveliner @ Apr 8 2007, 06:31 PM)
Dov Zakheim — rabid Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; Pentagon comptroller when a trillion dollars was reported missing on 9-10-01; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; possible 9-11 mastermind
Wirt Walker — cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11
Wirt Walker — cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11
The trillions of dollars are missing on 12.Februar 2001:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/ja...llars_2-12.html
Wirt Dexter is not a cousin of George Bush:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirt_Walker
Hmm the wiki article says the fact that there is NO connection between Walker and Bush needs to be vetted. Likewise the source that vets their connection also needs to be vetted.
Welcome to the forum Bolko...
so noted on the 2.3 trillion missing, which adds to my assertion that the Dems had a hand in 9/11 as well.
Who is Wirt Dexter?
Wirt Walker is related to Bush.
Wirt Walker is related to Bush.
I think Zakheim definitely had a major role in planning 9/11.
Most of us are pretty sure that there had to have been some sort of remote assistance on at least some of the aircraft, and Zakheim is a brilliant man with access to exactly that type of technology. I'd bet him and Cheney did most of the planning...especially the Pentagon.
And DEFINITELY Kissinger. If i had to guess, i'd say he was behind just about every devious operation this government has pulled off since he's been an employee.
Probably Wolfy...Perle...
These names i named are just the ones who i think had the most to do with the PLANNING phase.
I tend to doubt that Bush had much specific knowledge about it...Presidents always have to remain slightly in the dark to allow for an effective amount of plausible deniability. Maybe his pop did...but i doubt W was allowed to partake in it.
Most of us are pretty sure that there had to have been some sort of remote assistance on at least some of the aircraft, and Zakheim is a brilliant man with access to exactly that type of technology. I'd bet him and Cheney did most of the planning...especially the Pentagon.
And DEFINITELY Kissinger. If i had to guess, i'd say he was behind just about every devious operation this government has pulled off since he's been an employee.
Probably Wolfy...Perle...
These names i named are just the ones who i think had the most to do with the PLANNING phase.
I tend to doubt that Bush had much specific knowledge about it...Presidents always have to remain slightly in the dark to allow for an effective amount of plausible deniability. Maybe his pop did...but i doubt W was allowed to partake in it.
QUOTE (mo fiya @ Apr 9 2007, 04:01 PM)
I tend to doubt that Bush had much specific knowledge about it...Presidents always have to remain slightly in the dark to allow for an effective amount of plausible deniability. Maybe his pop did...but i doubt W was allowed to partake in it.
I've thought that myself; the "deer in the headlights look" on Bush's face at the school in florida made me think that he realized immediately something fishy was up, but didn't quite know what. Either that or he knew there had been talk of something, but he was completely taken by surprise as to scope and timing. In all honesty, he's such a complete idiot...a loose cannon...that it would be better for those around him to have planned it with as little knowledge on his part as possible.
QUOTE (jo56 @ Apr 9 2007, 03:25 PM)
Wirt Walker is related to Bush.
You have to show this.
Seems like they're cousins
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPer...rt-D-Walker-III
http://www.911myths.com/html/stratesec.html
http://www.911omissionreport.com/marvin_wirt.html
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPer...rt-D-Walker-III
http://www.911myths.com/html/stratesec.html
http://www.911omissionreport.com/marvin_wirt.html
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NOTE: Marvin Bush, the brother of president Bush, was head of WTC security until his contract expired on September 10th, 2001, 1 day before 9/11. Barbara Bush states this fact in her book.
Also principal in the company, was Wirt D. Walker III, President Bush's cousin.
Also principal in the company, was Wirt D. Walker III, President Bush's cousin.
This is a great idea to create the names of people that ultimately should be held accountable when the world finally acknowledges that 9/11 and the subsequent trashing of the Constitution/Bill of rights and the GWOT hoax.
Don't forget to list New York's Governor, Elliot Spitzer, who failed to investigate or prosecute anyone concerning the obvious treason and murder on that day. Many researchers provided him with documentation and information that could have lead to prosecutions and convictions in his jurisdiction as Attorney General for New York State.
Another suggestion would be to categorize the perpetrators along the lines of Webster Tarpley's concept of state sponsored false flag terrorism ("9/11 Synthetic Terror"): Patsies, Moles, Professional Killers, Privatized Command Center.
Another factor about perpetrators are the roles of specific private corporations with key personel like Kroll, AIG, SAIC, Booz-Hamilton, Blackstone Group, etc.
After the fact criminals could also include the ten members of the 9/11 Commission Report and their chief writer/researcher, Philip Zelikow. Karl Schwartz book, "One-Way Ticket to Crawford Texas", outlines the financial conflict-of-interest for all ten commissioners.
Before I became aware of 9/11 truth in 2002, the researcher that has been most recently been advocating "no-planes and TV fakery", Nico Haupt (aka: Ewing2000), published extensive collaborated research on corporate and individual perpetrators available for review in archived files at the DemocraticUnderground at the following links:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-b...D43&archive=yes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-b...D43&archive=yes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-b...D43&archive=yes
Even though Michael Ruppert did not embrace the Controlled Demolition of WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 in his book, "Crossing the Rubicon" and/or his website "FTW", he did present ample evidence of criminal complicity before and after the fact of several key members of the current Administration.
The bottom line is that knowing and proving the guilt of any named persons or corporations, incuding the 500 names on Sander's list referred to in this thread, requires an independent prosecutor in the Federal Government, State of New York, City of New York, Washington DC, or Pennsylvania that can and will bring indictments against some of the most powerful and dangerous men in the United States.
How in the world can you find such a man/woman with the authority, jurisdiction, courage, political power, and skills to take the necessary action?
jeff D.
Don't forget to list New York's Governor, Elliot Spitzer, who failed to investigate or prosecute anyone concerning the obvious treason and murder on that day. Many researchers provided him with documentation and information that could have lead to prosecutions and convictions in his jurisdiction as Attorney General for New York State.
Another suggestion would be to categorize the perpetrators along the lines of Webster Tarpley's concept of state sponsored false flag terrorism ("9/11 Synthetic Terror"): Patsies, Moles, Professional Killers, Privatized Command Center.
Another factor about perpetrators are the roles of specific private corporations with key personel like Kroll, AIG, SAIC, Booz-Hamilton, Blackstone Group, etc.
After the fact criminals could also include the ten members of the 9/11 Commission Report and their chief writer/researcher, Philip Zelikow. Karl Schwartz book, "One-Way Ticket to Crawford Texas", outlines the financial conflict-of-interest for all ten commissioners.
Before I became aware of 9/11 truth in 2002, the researcher that has been most recently been advocating "no-planes and TV fakery", Nico Haupt (aka: Ewing2000), published extensive collaborated research on corporate and individual perpetrators available for review in archived files at the DemocraticUnderground at the following links:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-b...D43&archive=yes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-b...D43&archive=yes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-b...D43&archive=yes
Even though Michael Ruppert did not embrace the Controlled Demolition of WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 in his book, "Crossing the Rubicon" and/or his website "FTW", he did present ample evidence of criminal complicity before and after the fact of several key members of the current Administration.
The bottom line is that knowing and proving the guilt of any named persons or corporations, incuding the 500 names on Sander's list referred to in this thread, requires an independent prosecutor in the Federal Government, State of New York, City of New York, Washington DC, or Pennsylvania that can and will bring indictments against some of the most powerful and dangerous men in the United States.
How in the world can you find such a man/woman with the authority, jurisdiction, courage, political power, and skills to take the necessary action?
jeff D.
QUOTE (jadenter @ Apr 10 2007, 09:39 AM)
How in the world can you find such a man/woman with the authority, jurisdiction, courage, political power, and skills to take the necessary action?
I think we need a little more than just one.
Found this list on educate-yourself.org
source: educate-yourself.org
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103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators
http://www.whodidit.org
Tuesday, September 25, 2007
Note: In an effort to reclaim the meaning of certain highly-charged words, the word "defense" is replaced by the word "war" in all USG department names, position titles, and policy boards; for instance, "Secretary of Defense" is retitled "Secretary of War" to more accurately reflect the true nature of the position.
1. George W. Bush -- eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot
2. Dick Cheney -- former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several "war games"; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities
3. Donald Rumsfeld -- former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said "when that missile hit the Pentagon"
4. Paul Wolfowitz -- Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal
5. Richard Perle -- former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan's ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed "Prince of Darkness"
6. Douglas Feith -- effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member
7. Dov Zakheim -- Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9-10-01; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; reputed 9-11 mastermind
8. George Tenet -- director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the "Medal of Freedom" by Bush for his fine work on 9-11; reported to be "dual citizen" of US and Israel
9. Robert Mueller -- FBI director on 9-11; under his "leadership" FBI field agents' warnings of an imminent attack were stifled
10. Thomas Pickard -- took over the job of FBI director from Louis Freeh in August 2001; held this position only for a few weeks before Richard Mueller became director; former Terror Task Force chief; John O'Neill complained about sabotage by Pickard
11. Dale Watson -- former Deputy Chief of the CIA at the Counter-Terrorist Center; appointed Inspector Deputy Assistant Director of the National Security Division (NSD), FBI Headquarters, Washington, DC in July 1998; appointed FBI Headquarters Assistant on December 6, 1999 by the Attorney General; ignored at least four different FBI agents' warnings including an "urgent cable" from the CIA on August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi
12. Dave Frasca -- FBI Radical Fundamentalists Unit Chief; personally scuttled the work of Kenneth Williams in July 2001 and Coleen Rowley in August 2001, the Arizona and Minnesota FBI agents who were actively investigating "terrorist" patsies in CIA-operated flight schools
13. Marion "Spike" Bowman -- FBI agent who thwarted FBI investigations into both Zacarias Moussaoui and the anthrax attacks on Congress
14. John Ashcroft -- Attorney General on 9-11; protected "terrorist" patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001
15. Michael Chertoff -- Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; likely Mossad agent
16. Michael Mukasey -- federal judge in New York; presided over 1993 WTC bombing case; active in 9-11 cases, including Larry Silverstein's insurance claims; oversaw the detained material witnesses of 9-11, including five dancing Israeli Mossad agents apprehended by FBI; recently appointed by Bush to be the next Attorney General; radical Zionist of Russian Jewish parentage; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
17. Ted Olson -- Solicitor General of the United States on 9-11; alleges that his wife, Barbara, phoned him from AA Flight 77 to report that it was highjacked by men with knives and box cutters; Flight 77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon though there was no wreckage of a 757 at the site, no bodies, no luggage, and the hole in the side of the Pentagon was much too small to accommodate a 757 (Barbara is not likely alive, but she was not killed at the Pentagon event)
18. Colin Powell -- Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre
19. Condi Rice -- National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath
20. Tommy Thompson -- Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary; hired Jerome Hauer, former Office of Emergency Center, on 9-10-01
21. Jerome Hauer -- managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management on 9-11; put John O'Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings; director of Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management from 1996 to 2000
22. Porter Goss -- former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after "hookergate"
23. Bob Graham -- former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004
24. Marc Grossman -- Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on or shortly after 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
25. Richard Armitage -- former member of PNAC, Deputy Secretary of State; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, shortly after 9-11
26. Philip Zelikow -- led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
27. Ari Fleischer -- White House spokesman for Bush on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; connected to the extremist group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics
28. Andrew Card -- Bush's Chief of Staff on 9-11; was with Bush at Booker Elementary School in Florida on 9-11; claims to have whispered to Bush, "A second plane hit the second tower, America is under attack"
29. Karl Rove -- Bush's top strategist, known as "Bush's Brian"; America's Joseph Goebbels; was behind the campaign to oust Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney who was the first nationally-known politician to question Bush's role in 9-11; in June 2005, said, "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 in the attacks and prepared for war, liberals saw the savagery of the 9-11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers"
30. Richard Meyers -- in charge of USA air defenses on 9-11; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about reasons for air defense failure on 9-11; promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
31. Ralph Eberhardt -- NORAD Commander on 9-11; fanatical supporter of missile defense scheme, militarization of space; enthusiastic supporter of merging law enforcement and the military
32. Larry Arnold -- NORAD Commander Major General on 9-11; has used 9-11 to push militarization of USA
33. Eric Findley -- Canadian Air Force Major General; acting commander of NORAD on 9-11
34. Montague Winfield -- Major General in charge of Pentagon war room on 9-10-01, the evening of September 10th he requested a rookie to stand in for him on 9-11
35. Richard Mies -- former Admiral; ran Global Guardian "war game" on 9-11 out of US Strategic Command (Stratcom) at Offutt Air Force Base; now CEO of Hicks & Associates, a "strategic consultant" to the USG dealing in "military transformation"
36. Henry Shelton -- Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11; supported formation of Able Danger
37. Peter Schoomaker -- US Army Chief of Staff; former SOCOM (Special Operations Command) chief; ran Able Danger
38. Geoffrey Lambert -- Major General; SOCOM (Special Operations Command) Intel Chief; made Able Danger, the program that tracked patsy "terrorists", off limits to FBI
39. John Brinkerhoff -- retired US Army Colonel who was a career senior executive in the Office of Secretary of War; from 1981 to 1983, FEMA associate director for national preparedness where he developed plan for martial law; claims intentions of Posse Comitatus are "misunderstood and misapplied", that USG has "full and absolute authority" to use troops to quell American uprising; after 9-11, joined Anser Institute for Homeland Security and wrote "talking points" supporting revised "national security initiatives" that would allow imposition of martial law
40. John Lehman -- Reagan's Navy Secretary from 1981 till 1987; claims US is in religious war against "violent, Islamic Fundamentalism"; member 9-11 Omission Commission; PNAC member
41. Tony Gentry -- Army Intelligence and Security Command General Counsel; ordered 2.5 terrabytes of Able Danger data destroyed
42. Philip Odeen -- as director of Program Analysis for the National Security Council, provided staff support to Henry Kissinger from 1971 to 1973; served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of War in Systems Analysis; named to chair the National War Panel in 1997; former president of Reynolds and Reynolds; former CEO and president of BDM International; executive vice president of Washington operations of TRW
43. Elliot Abrams -- former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist
44. Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist
45. Jack Abramoff -- entertained USG "terrorist" patsy Mohammed Atta on his yacht just before 9-11; convicted criminal lobbyist; ardent Zionist
46. Jeb Bush -- Florida governor on 9-11; declared martial law in Florida four days before 9-11; brother of George Bush; PNAC member; guilty of election fraud in 2000
47. Rudolph Giuliani -- mayor of New York on 9-11; hailed as "hero" for his "gutsy" leadership on 9-11; allegedly involved with FEMA and former NYC Police Chief Kerik in Operation Code Angel
48. Bernard Kerik -- NYC Police Chief on 9-11; "sidekick" of Giuliani; allegedly involved with FEMA in WTC demolition "war games" called Operation Code Angel
49. Lewis Eisenberg -- chairman Port Authority of New York and New Jersey on 9-11; authorized transfer of WTC leases to Silverstein and Lowy just weeks before 9-11; later appointed chairman of Republican National Committee; Zionist
50. Eliot Spitzer -- New York Attorney General on 9-11; barred his top aide, Deputy Attorney General Dietrich Snell, from testifying to Congress on Able Danger; threw out Karl Schwarz's 9-11 synopsis
51. Richard Holbrooke -- former US ambassador to UN; CFR member; co-chaired "Independent Task Force on America's Response to Terrorism" in which the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) was promoted
52. John Deutch -- former Undersecretary of War, director of CIA; co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow, Ashton Carter; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America; MIT professor; grandson of Yonah Fischer, Antwerp diamond merchant who ran Zionist Federation of Belgium
53. Ashton Carter -- co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow and Deutch; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America
54. Michael Ledeen -- became "anti-terrorism" advisor to Secretary of State, Al Haig in 1981; contacts with mullahs in Iran-Contra affair; alleged ties to Italian fascist P2 Masonic Lodge; contacts with Libby, Cheney's Chief of Staff; top NeoCon(vict) advisor to Bush and Karl Rove; member AEI (American Enterprise Institute); wrote book extolling fascism
55. Abdussattar Shaikh -- FBI informant to the San Diego office; helped bring "terrorist" patsies to USA; protected by Attorney General Ashcroft
56. Abdullah Noman -- worked for the US Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; filed 10-15 visas for the patsy 9-11 "hijackers" in the Visa Express Program
57. Daniel Lewin -- officer in elite, secret unit of Israeli military called "Sayeret Matkal"; orchestrated activities of Mossad agents in USA before 9-11; was allegedly stabbed or "shot" by highjacker Satam al-Suqami before AA flight 11 crashed into the WTC
58. Dominic Suter -- Mossad agent; his front company, Urban Moving Systems, employed the five Mossad agents caught celebrating in New York on 9-11
59. Sivan Kurzberg -- driver of van belonging to the celebrating Israelis; when stopped by police on 9-11, he said "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem"
60. John Gross -- one of the lead engineers for the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; denies existence of molten steel at the WTC
61. Theresa McAllister -- edited the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
62. Ronald Hamburger -- structural engineer and Senior Principal at Simpson Gumpertz and Heger consulting engineers in San Francisco; was a principal author of FEMA's initial report on the collapse of the twin towers; later a key participant in the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
63. William Baker -- member of FEMA Probe Team; partner with Skidmore, Owings, Merrill; contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
64. Harold Nelson -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
65. Ramon Gilsanz -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
66. Shankar Nair -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; quoted in Chicago Tribune, September 19, 2001 that "Already there is near-consensus as to the sequence of events that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center"
67. Gene Corley -- led FEMA/ASCE WTC collapse "investigation"; was the principle investigator for ASCE and FEMA of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City
68. Paul Mlakar -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks
69. Mete Sozen -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks
70. Charles Thornton -- partner of Richard Tomasetti; told Karl Koch, whose company erected the WTC steel, "Karl, we all know what caused the collapse"; part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks
71. Richard Tomasetti -- partner of Charles Thornton; reportedly behind the unprecedented and widely criticized decision to destroy most of the WTC steel evidence
72. Victor Ganzi -- president and CEO of Hearst Corporation since June 1, 2002; the Hearst publication, Popular Mechanics, has repeatedly tried to debunk the truth of 9-11
73. Benjamin Chertoff -- 25-year-old cousin of Michael Chertoff; senior "researcher" for Popular Mechanics' hit piece on 9-11 Truth Movement
74. Kevin Delaney -- FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center who destroyed controllers' tapes of 9-11
75. Marvin Bush -- brother of George Bush; on board of Securacom, US-Kuwaiti company paid $9.2 million to manage WTC security October 1996 to 1998; on board of HCC Insurance, big WTC insurer
76. Wirt Walker -- cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11
77. Larry Silverstein -- he and partner Frank Lowy obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; made several billion dollars on 9-11 insurance fraud; admitted to "pulling" WTC 7; Zionist
78. Frank Lowy -- he and partner Larry Silverstein obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; came to Palestine in 1945 from Hungarian to fight as Golani commando in Israeli "War of Independence"; Australia's second richest person; in May 2007, investigated by Israeli police for corruption scandal involving Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert; Zionist
79. David Rockefeller -- vice director of the Council on Foreign Relations (1949-1985), vice president (1950-1970), and chairman (1970-1985); as chairman of the Downtown-Lower Manhattan Association (1958 to 1975) was primary builder of WTC complex; founder and honorary chairman of the Trilateral Commission; president or CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank, 1961 to 1981; 9-11 was the anniversary of 1973 CIA-sponsored coup plotted by David Rockefeller's cabal and overseen by Nelson's protégé Henry Kissinger that toppled Chile's President Salvadore Allende
80. Nicholas Rockefeller -- told film-maker Aaron Russo of coming catastrophic event eleven months before 9-11
81. Warren Buffett -- was hosting golf charity event at the US Strategic Command headquarters at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha on 9-11 (Bush flew to Offutt afternoon of 9-11); world's second richest person
82. Rupert Murdoch -- key player in Zionist-controlled corporate media which began the 9-11 cover-up on day one; connected to individuals who privatized and leased WTC just weeks before 9-11; vocal supporter of Zionist extremists Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon; honored by leading Zionist organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), in which Silverstein, Lowy, and Eisenberg all hold senior positions; Zionist who tries to hide his Jewish heritage
83. Maurice Greenberg -- CEO of American International Group (AIG) on 9-11 which became co-owner of the "private spy agency", Kroll Associates, in 1993 and was a major share-holder in Marsh & McClennan whose CEO on 9-11 was Maurice's son Jeffrey; director of the New York Federal Reserve bank (1988-1995); deputy chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in 1996; major investor in the Blackstone Group
84. Jules Kroll -- founder of Kroll Corporation, a "security services" company which was in charge of "security" at WTC on 9-11; has close links to CIA and is active private military contractor in Iraq; Zionist
85. Paul Bremer -- Marsh & McClennan executive on 9-11; Chairman of the Congressional National Commission on Terrorism, 1999 to 2000; US Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism, 1986 to 1989; Presidential Envoy to Irag and Adminstrator of the Coaltion Provisional Authority, May 2003 to December 2004
86. Wallace Hilliard -- with Saudi investors including Shiek Kamal Adham, Adnan Khashoggi, and Prince Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz. bought Venice, Florida Huffman Aviation in 1999 where Mohammed Atta and other alleged 9-11 highjackers allegedly learned to fly; flight school linked to CIA firm
87. Peter Peterson -- CEO of the Blackstone Group, parent corporation of one of three lease-holders for WTC 7 on 9-11; also chairman of the CFR and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on 9-11; CEO of the Institute for International Economics in October 2000
88. A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard -- now number three executive director at the CIA; until 1998, managed firm used to place "put options" on United Airlines which has left $2.5 million in "profits" unclaimed
89. Mark Loizeaux -- as CEO of CDI was instrumental in "recycling" steel from WTC crime scene; CDI also buried the rubble from the crime scene of the Murrah Federal Building
90. Loring Knoblauch -- CEO of Underwriters Labs; said that jet fuel fires were not "reasonably foreseeable"; resigned suddenly in August 2004 after UL performed tests of WTC floor models where floors did not collapse and were barely affected
91. Michael Cherkasky -- CEO of Kroll on 9-11; former investigator in the Manhattan DA's Office from 1978 to 1994; now CEO of insurance-firm Marsh & McClennan
92. Frank Carlucci -- former Secretary of War; affiliated with PNAC; served as chairman of the Carlyle Group (1992-2003); on BoD of BDM International
93. William Kristol -- PNAC co-founder; adherent of Leo Strauss; editor of The Weekly Standard; strong advocate of the Iraq war; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist
94. William Perry -- former Secretary of War; associated with the Rothschild's banking empire through Global Technology, a Rothschild affiliate
95. James Woolsey -- former CIA director; PNAC member; claims "incompetence" was reason for 9-11
96. Newt Gingrich -- former Speaker of the House; PNAC member; reputed to be a member of the CFR; served on the Pentagon's War Policy Board
97. Henry Kissinger -- long criminal history; wanted for war crimes in several countries; sat on War Policy Board under Perle; chosen to lead 9-11 Cover-Up Omission Commission; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
98. George H.W. Bush -- Bush crime family Don; Skull and Bones; CIA operative involved in JFK assassination; former head of CIA; son of friend shot Reagan when he was VP; war profiteer
99. Tony Blair -- British Prime Minister on 9-11; ally and partner in crime of George Bush; London 7-7 bombings were also "false flag" operation
100. Pauline Neville-Jones -- International Governor of BBC on 9-11; Chairman of UK Joint Intelligence Committee (1991-1994); Chairman of QinetiQ Group, a war technology company with government customers in UK and USA; Chairman of Information Assurance Advisory Council (IAAC)
101. Mahmoud Ahmad -- head of Pakistan's ISI; had Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh wire $100,000 to lead 9-11 "terrorist" patsy Mohammad Atta
102. Benjamin Netanyahu -- former Israeli Prime Minister; said 9-11 was "good" for US-Israeli relationship; in NYC on 9-11 and in London on 7-7 bombings
103. Ariel Sharon -- Israeli Prime Minister on 9-11; heavy Mossad involvement in 9-11 (200 Israeli intelligence agents rounded up after 9-11, five Mossad agents arrested filming and celebrating WTC collapses, employees of Mossad-operated company at WTC notified hours before plane hit) implicates Sharon; infamous Zionist terrorist and war criminal; now said to be comatose
Of the 103 people named on the this list of suspected 9-11 criminal co-conspirators there are:
22 current or former members of George W. Bush's White House 21.4%
4 current or former members of Congress 3.9%
6 current or former FBI agents 5.8%
6 people currently or formerly with the CIA 5.8%
6 current or former officials of New York 5.8%
12 current or former high-ranking USG military commanders 11.7%
13 current or former USG officials (not included above) 12.6%
12 current or former members of PNAC 11.7%
16 consultants, lobbists, or members of a "think tank" (not including PNAC) 15.5%
12 engineers 11.7%
34 current or former corporate executives 33.0%
4 senior "statesmen" 3.9%
5 Bushs and close relatives 4.9%
1 Canadian 1.0%
1 Pakistanian 1.0%
2 Arabs 1.9%
2 Brits 1.9%
4 known or suspected Mossad agents 3.9%
14 people who hold "dual citizenship" 13.6%
27 Israelis and Zionists (including people with "dual citizenship" noted above) 26.2%
Note: Since the same person can be counted in more than one category, the tally above will not add up to 103 and the percentages will not total to 100%
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007
Note: In an effort to reclaim the meaning of certain highly-charged words, the word "defense" is replaced by the word "war" in all USG department names, position titles, and policy boards; for instance, "Secretary of Defense" is retitled "Secretary of War" to more accurately reflect the true nature of the position.
1. George W. Bush -- eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot
2. Dick Cheney -- former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several "war games"; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities
3. Donald Rumsfeld -- former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said "when that missile hit the Pentagon"
4. Paul Wolfowitz -- Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal
5. Richard Perle -- former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan's ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed "Prince of Darkness"
6. Douglas Feith -- effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member
7. Dov Zakheim -- Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9-10-01; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; reputed 9-11 mastermind
8. George Tenet -- director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the "Medal of Freedom" by Bush for his fine work on 9-11; reported to be "dual citizen" of US and Israel
9. Robert Mueller -- FBI director on 9-11; under his "leadership" FBI field agents' warnings of an imminent attack were stifled
10. Thomas Pickard -- took over the job of FBI director from Louis Freeh in August 2001; held this position only for a few weeks before Richard Mueller became director; former Terror Task Force chief; John O'Neill complained about sabotage by Pickard
11. Dale Watson -- former Deputy Chief of the CIA at the Counter-Terrorist Center; appointed Inspector Deputy Assistant Director of the National Security Division (NSD), FBI Headquarters, Washington, DC in July 1998; appointed FBI Headquarters Assistant on December 6, 1999 by the Attorney General; ignored at least four different FBI agents' warnings including an "urgent cable" from the CIA on August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi
12. Dave Frasca -- FBI Radical Fundamentalists Unit Chief; personally scuttled the work of Kenneth Williams in July 2001 and Coleen Rowley in August 2001, the Arizona and Minnesota FBI agents who were actively investigating "terrorist" patsies in CIA-operated flight schools
13. Marion "Spike" Bowman -- FBI agent who thwarted FBI investigations into both Zacarias Moussaoui and the anthrax attacks on Congress
14. John Ashcroft -- Attorney General on 9-11; protected "terrorist" patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001
15. Michael Chertoff -- Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; likely Mossad agent
16. Michael Mukasey -- federal judge in New York; presided over 1993 WTC bombing case; active in 9-11 cases, including Larry Silverstein's insurance claims; oversaw the detained material witnesses of 9-11, including five dancing Israeli Mossad agents apprehended by FBI; recently appointed by Bush to be the next Attorney General; radical Zionist of Russian Jewish parentage; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
17. Ted Olson -- Solicitor General of the United States on 9-11; alleges that his wife, Barbara, phoned him from AA Flight 77 to report that it was highjacked by men with knives and box cutters; Flight 77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon though there was no wreckage of a 757 at the site, no bodies, no luggage, and the hole in the side of the Pentagon was much too small to accommodate a 757 (Barbara is not likely alive, but she was not killed at the Pentagon event)
18. Colin Powell -- Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre
19. Condi Rice -- National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath
20. Tommy Thompson -- Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary; hired Jerome Hauer, former Office of Emergency Center, on 9-10-01
21. Jerome Hauer -- managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management on 9-11; put John O'Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings; director of Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management from 1996 to 2000
22. Porter Goss -- former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after "hookergate"
23. Bob Graham -- former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004
24. Marc Grossman -- Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on or shortly after 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
25. Richard Armitage -- former member of PNAC, Deputy Secretary of State; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, shortly after 9-11
26. Philip Zelikow -- led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
27. Ari Fleischer -- White House spokesman for Bush on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; connected to the extremist group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics
28. Andrew Card -- Bush's Chief of Staff on 9-11; was with Bush at Booker Elementary School in Florida on 9-11; claims to have whispered to Bush, "A second plane hit the second tower, America is under attack"
29. Karl Rove -- Bush's top strategist, known as "Bush's Brian"; America's Joseph Goebbels; was behind the campaign to oust Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney who was the first nationally-known politician to question Bush's role in 9-11; in June 2005, said, "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 in the attacks and prepared for war, liberals saw the savagery of the 9-11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers"
30. Richard Meyers -- in charge of USA air defenses on 9-11; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about reasons for air defense failure on 9-11; promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
31. Ralph Eberhardt -- NORAD Commander on 9-11; fanatical supporter of missile defense scheme, militarization of space; enthusiastic supporter of merging law enforcement and the military
32. Larry Arnold -- NORAD Commander Major General on 9-11; has used 9-11 to push militarization of USA
33. Eric Findley -- Canadian Air Force Major General; acting commander of NORAD on 9-11
34. Montague Winfield -- Major General in charge of Pentagon war room on 9-10-01, the evening of September 10th he requested a rookie to stand in for him on 9-11
35. Richard Mies -- former Admiral; ran Global Guardian "war game" on 9-11 out of US Strategic Command (Stratcom) at Offutt Air Force Base; now CEO of Hicks & Associates, a "strategic consultant" to the USG dealing in "military transformation"
36. Henry Shelton -- Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11; supported formation of Able Danger
37. Peter Schoomaker -- US Army Chief of Staff; former SOCOM (Special Operations Command) chief; ran Able Danger
38. Geoffrey Lambert -- Major General; SOCOM (Special Operations Command) Intel Chief; made Able Danger, the program that tracked patsy "terrorists", off limits to FBI
39. John Brinkerhoff -- retired US Army Colonel who was a career senior executive in the Office of Secretary of War; from 1981 to 1983, FEMA associate director for national preparedness where he developed plan for martial law; claims intentions of Posse Comitatus are "misunderstood and misapplied", that USG has "full and absolute authority" to use troops to quell American uprising; after 9-11, joined Anser Institute for Homeland Security and wrote "talking points" supporting revised "national security initiatives" that would allow imposition of martial law
40. John Lehman -- Reagan's Navy Secretary from 1981 till 1987; claims US is in religious war against "violent, Islamic Fundamentalism"; member 9-11 Omission Commission; PNAC member
41. Tony Gentry -- Army Intelligence and Security Command General Counsel; ordered 2.5 terrabytes of Able Danger data destroyed
42. Philip Odeen -- as director of Program Analysis for the National Security Council, provided staff support to Henry Kissinger from 1971 to 1973; served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of War in Systems Analysis; named to chair the National War Panel in 1997; former president of Reynolds and Reynolds; former CEO and president of BDM International; executive vice president of Washington operations of TRW
43. Elliot Abrams -- former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist
44. Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist
45. Jack Abramoff -- entertained USG "terrorist" patsy Mohammed Atta on his yacht just before 9-11; convicted criminal lobbyist; ardent Zionist
46. Jeb Bush -- Florida governor on 9-11; declared martial law in Florida four days before 9-11; brother of George Bush; PNAC member; guilty of election fraud in 2000
47. Rudolph Giuliani -- mayor of New York on 9-11; hailed as "hero" for his "gutsy" leadership on 9-11; allegedly involved with FEMA and former NYC Police Chief Kerik in Operation Code Angel
48. Bernard Kerik -- NYC Police Chief on 9-11; "sidekick" of Giuliani; allegedly involved with FEMA in WTC demolition "war games" called Operation Code Angel
49. Lewis Eisenberg -- chairman Port Authority of New York and New Jersey on 9-11; authorized transfer of WTC leases to Silverstein and Lowy just weeks before 9-11; later appointed chairman of Republican National Committee; Zionist
50. Eliot Spitzer -- New York Attorney General on 9-11; barred his top aide, Deputy Attorney General Dietrich Snell, from testifying to Congress on Able Danger; threw out Karl Schwarz's 9-11 synopsis
51. Richard Holbrooke -- former US ambassador to UN; CFR member; co-chaired "Independent Task Force on America's Response to Terrorism" in which the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) was promoted
52. John Deutch -- former Undersecretary of War, director of CIA; co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow, Ashton Carter; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America; MIT professor; grandson of Yonah Fischer, Antwerp diamond merchant who ran Zionist Federation of Belgium
53. Ashton Carter -- co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow and Deutch; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America
54. Michael Ledeen -- became "anti-terrorism" advisor to Secretary of State, Al Haig in 1981; contacts with mullahs in Iran-Contra affair; alleged ties to Italian fascist P2 Masonic Lodge; contacts with Libby, Cheney's Chief of Staff; top NeoCon(vict) advisor to Bush and Karl Rove; member AEI (American Enterprise Institute); wrote book extolling fascism
55. Abdussattar Shaikh -- FBI informant to the San Diego office; helped bring "terrorist" patsies to USA; protected by Attorney General Ashcroft
56. Abdullah Noman -- worked for the US Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; filed 10-15 visas for the patsy 9-11 "hijackers" in the Visa Express Program
57. Daniel Lewin -- officer in elite, secret unit of Israeli military called "Sayeret Matkal"; orchestrated activities of Mossad agents in USA before 9-11; was allegedly stabbed or "shot" by highjacker Satam al-Suqami before AA flight 11 crashed into the WTC
58. Dominic Suter -- Mossad agent; his front company, Urban Moving Systems, employed the five Mossad agents caught celebrating in New York on 9-11
59. Sivan Kurzberg -- driver of van belonging to the celebrating Israelis; when stopped by police on 9-11, he said "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem"
60. John Gross -- one of the lead engineers for the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; denies existence of molten steel at the WTC
61. Theresa McAllister -- edited the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
62. Ronald Hamburger -- structural engineer and Senior Principal at Simpson Gumpertz and Heger consulting engineers in San Francisco; was a principal author of FEMA's initial report on the collapse of the twin towers; later a key participant in the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
63. William Baker -- member of FEMA Probe Team; partner with Skidmore, Owings, Merrill; contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
64. Harold Nelson -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
65. Ramon Gilsanz -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed
66. Shankar Nair -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; quoted in Chicago Tribune, September 19, 2001 that "Already there is near-consensus as to the sequence of events that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center"
67. Gene Corley -- led FEMA/ASCE WTC collapse "investigation"; was the principle investigator for ASCE and FEMA of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City
68. Paul Mlakar -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks
69. Mete Sozen -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks
70. Charles Thornton -- partner of Richard Tomasetti; told Karl Koch, whose company erected the WTC steel, "Karl, we all know what caused the collapse"; part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks
71. Richard Tomasetti -- partner of Charles Thornton; reportedly behind the unprecedented and widely criticized decision to destroy most of the WTC steel evidence
72. Victor Ganzi -- president and CEO of Hearst Corporation since June 1, 2002; the Hearst publication, Popular Mechanics, has repeatedly tried to debunk the truth of 9-11
73. Benjamin Chertoff -- 25-year-old cousin of Michael Chertoff; senior "researcher" for Popular Mechanics' hit piece on 9-11 Truth Movement
74. Kevin Delaney -- FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center who destroyed controllers' tapes of 9-11
75. Marvin Bush -- brother of George Bush; on board of Securacom, US-Kuwaiti company paid $9.2 million to manage WTC security October 1996 to 1998; on board of HCC Insurance, big WTC insurer
76. Wirt Walker -- cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11
77. Larry Silverstein -- he and partner Frank Lowy obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; made several billion dollars on 9-11 insurance fraud; admitted to "pulling" WTC 7; Zionist
78. Frank Lowy -- he and partner Larry Silverstein obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; came to Palestine in 1945 from Hungarian to fight as Golani commando in Israeli "War of Independence"; Australia's second richest person; in May 2007, investigated by Israeli police for corruption scandal involving Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert; Zionist
79. David Rockefeller -- vice director of the Council on Foreign Relations (1949-1985), vice president (1950-1970), and chairman (1970-1985); as chairman of the Downtown-Lower Manhattan Association (1958 to 1975) was primary builder of WTC complex; founder and honorary chairman of the Trilateral Commission; president or CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank, 1961 to 1981; 9-11 was the anniversary of 1973 CIA-sponsored coup plotted by David Rockefeller's cabal and overseen by Nelson's protégé Henry Kissinger that toppled Chile's President Salvadore Allende
80. Nicholas Rockefeller -- told film-maker Aaron Russo of coming catastrophic event eleven months before 9-11
81. Warren Buffett -- was hosting golf charity event at the US Strategic Command headquarters at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha on 9-11 (Bush flew to Offutt afternoon of 9-11); world's second richest person
82. Rupert Murdoch -- key player in Zionist-controlled corporate media which began the 9-11 cover-up on day one; connected to individuals who privatized and leased WTC just weeks before 9-11; vocal supporter of Zionist extremists Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon; honored by leading Zionist organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), in which Silverstein, Lowy, and Eisenberg all hold senior positions; Zionist who tries to hide his Jewish heritage
83. Maurice Greenberg -- CEO of American International Group (AIG) on 9-11 which became co-owner of the "private spy agency", Kroll Associates, in 1993 and was a major share-holder in Marsh & McClennan whose CEO on 9-11 was Maurice's son Jeffrey; director of the New York Federal Reserve bank (1988-1995); deputy chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in 1996; major investor in the Blackstone Group
84. Jules Kroll -- founder of Kroll Corporation, a "security services" company which was in charge of "security" at WTC on 9-11; has close links to CIA and is active private military contractor in Iraq; Zionist
85. Paul Bremer -- Marsh & McClennan executive on 9-11; Chairman of the Congressional National Commission on Terrorism, 1999 to 2000; US Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism, 1986 to 1989; Presidential Envoy to Irag and Adminstrator of the Coaltion Provisional Authority, May 2003 to December 2004
86. Wallace Hilliard -- with Saudi investors including Shiek Kamal Adham, Adnan Khashoggi, and Prince Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz. bought Venice, Florida Huffman Aviation in 1999 where Mohammed Atta and other alleged 9-11 highjackers allegedly learned to fly; flight school linked to CIA firm
87. Peter Peterson -- CEO of the Blackstone Group, parent corporation of one of three lease-holders for WTC 7 on 9-11; also chairman of the CFR and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on 9-11; CEO of the Institute for International Economics in October 2000
88. A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard -- now number three executive director at the CIA; until 1998, managed firm used to place "put options" on United Airlines which has left $2.5 million in "profits" unclaimed
89. Mark Loizeaux -- as CEO of CDI was instrumental in "recycling" steel from WTC crime scene; CDI also buried the rubble from the crime scene of the Murrah Federal Building
90. Loring Knoblauch -- CEO of Underwriters Labs; said that jet fuel fires were not "reasonably foreseeable"; resigned suddenly in August 2004 after UL performed tests of WTC floor models where floors did not collapse and were barely affected
91. Michael Cherkasky -- CEO of Kroll on 9-11; former investigator in the Manhattan DA's Office from 1978 to 1994; now CEO of insurance-firm Marsh & McClennan
92. Frank Carlucci -- former Secretary of War; affiliated with PNAC; served as chairman of the Carlyle Group (1992-2003); on BoD of BDM International
93. William Kristol -- PNAC co-founder; adherent of Leo Strauss; editor of The Weekly Standard; strong advocate of the Iraq war; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist
94. William Perry -- former Secretary of War; associated with the Rothschild's banking empire through Global Technology, a Rothschild affiliate
95. James Woolsey -- former CIA director; PNAC member; claims "incompetence" was reason for 9-11
96. Newt Gingrich -- former Speaker of the House; PNAC member; reputed to be a member of the CFR; served on the Pentagon's War Policy Board
97. Henry Kissinger -- long criminal history; wanted for war crimes in several countries; sat on War Policy Board under Perle; chosen to lead 9-11 Cover-Up Omission Commission; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
98. George H.W. Bush -- Bush crime family Don; Skull and Bones; CIA operative involved in JFK assassination; former head of CIA; son of friend shot Reagan when he was VP; war profiteer
99. Tony Blair -- British Prime Minister on 9-11; ally and partner in crime of George Bush; London 7-7 bombings were also "false flag" operation
100. Pauline Neville-Jones -- International Governor of BBC on 9-11; Chairman of UK Joint Intelligence Committee (1991-1994); Chairman of QinetiQ Group, a war technology company with government customers in UK and USA; Chairman of Information Assurance Advisory Council (IAAC)
101. Mahmoud Ahmad -- head of Pakistan's ISI; had Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh wire $100,000 to lead 9-11 "terrorist" patsy Mohammad Atta
102. Benjamin Netanyahu -- former Israeli Prime Minister; said 9-11 was "good" for US-Israeli relationship; in NYC on 9-11 and in London on 7-7 bombings
103. Ariel Sharon -- Israeli Prime Minister on 9-11; heavy Mossad involvement in 9-11 (200 Israeli intelligence agents rounded up after 9-11, five Mossad agents arrested filming and celebrating WTC collapses, employees of Mossad-operated company at WTC notified hours before plane hit) implicates Sharon; infamous Zionist terrorist and war criminal; now said to be comatose
Of the 103 people named on the this list of suspected 9-11 criminal co-conspirators there are:
22 current or former members of George W. Bush's White House 21.4%
4 current or former members of Congress 3.9%
6 current or former FBI agents 5.8%
6 people currently or formerly with the CIA 5.8%
6 current or former officials of New York 5.8%
12 current or former high-ranking USG military commanders 11.7%
13 current or former USG officials (not included above) 12.6%
12 current or former members of PNAC 11.7%
16 consultants, lobbists, or members of a "think tank" (not including PNAC) 15.5%
12 engineers 11.7%
34 current or former corporate executives 33.0%
4 senior "statesmen" 3.9%
5 Bushs and close relatives 4.9%
1 Canadian 1.0%
1 Pakistanian 1.0%
2 Arabs 1.9%
2 Brits 1.9%
4 known or suspected Mossad agents 3.9%
14 people who hold "dual citizenship" 13.6%
27 Israelis and Zionists (including people with "dual citizenship" noted above) 26.2%
Note: Since the same person can be counted in more than one category, the tally above will not add up to 103 and the percentages will not total to 100%
source: educate-yourself.org
Whats sad about all this....these men and women all have the knowledge of the system. They know that they can escape all this by means of the UCC
They will NEVER be found guilty criminaly (commercialy) for these 'crimes'.
Yes, I agree, they should be jailed or executed for this crime of 911. BUT, in all fairness the sustem was designed by man and onlyman can destroy it or be above it. We only have 1 law, thats the golden rule of do not harm another human being -live in peace. So criminal efforts will not happen, EVER and CANT happen..
sorry guys..im not being negative here, im just being truthfull. Heck I know how to beat the system in court haha (DONT CONTRACT!), I think they will know also how not to contract.
get what I mean? I have further text to back up what I mean if anyone on here doesnt get it.
Ill onlly post a bit of an article I have on file....
Bureaucrats Never Have a Case
Written by Administrator
Tuesday, 21 November 2006
It doesn’t matter what “charge”, indictment or complaint is brought against someone by a prosecutor; bureaucrats never have a case; their very nature dictates they can’t. While many would cry out in protest, no doubt those invested economically and/or emotionally in statism, it is nonetheless an accurate statement.
This is such a simple exercise; I only have to use statism against itself to prove it. By statism, I mean the belief “citizens” and “states” exist and the thought patterns supporting such beliefs.
Statism is mind control; people surrender their property to men and women pretending to be “governors” and “presidents” etc., because they believe they are “citizens” of a so-called “state” and “must pay their fair share.” Talk about abstract concepts.
Because of these beliefs, or programming, when a man pretending to be a “cop” or “state attorney” files a “complaint” against a statist, no attention is paid to the many absurdities present, even by the lawyer pretending he has a client, the so-called “state attorney.” The issue of standing is a great way of demonstrating these absurdities. One of these is despite the fact a “complaint” is filed, there is no “case” presented to the “court.” Statist programming equates “complaint” with “case.” People under the influence of such programming don’t challenge what a “cop” or “state” attorney files as both are perceived as“authority figures.” By that, I mean they do not challenge the assertion a “complaint” presents a “case” to a court.
Standing consists of two absolutely essential elements: 1) violation of a legal right, and 2) personal injury. Now I’ll apply this standard to “cases” brought by pretended “state” and “United States” attorneys.
First, we’ll look at a traffic case, such as failure to wear a seatbelt. Traffic cases represent a significant source of energy stolen from people every year. I get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt; the “case” is called State of Arizona v. Marc Stevens.
One of two requirements for standing is: “A plaintiff must allege personal injury…” Has the “State of Arizona” (a fiction) alleged I have caused a “personal injury” by not wearing a seatbelt? Of course not: that’s one essential element missing, I’ve already established the pretended plaintiff “is [not] entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). Allegations or not, there is no injury to anyone if I don't wear a seatbelt.
The other requirement is the violation of a legal right. Has the “State of Arizona” (a fiction) alleged I violated the pretended “state’s” rights? Again, not a chance. According to the “Supreme Court,” there is no standing to complain against me regardless of the fact I may not have had a seatbelt on.
No connection to the “constitution” can be made because the “constitution” is four pieces of paper no one bothered to sign. It binds no one and created nothing: same as any other pieces of paper from two hundred and thirty years ago. Unless you believe in magic, placing the words “constitution” on a piece of paper will not create an obligation on someone two hundred and thirty years later.
The “constitution” is a very effective anchor that usually pacifies those critical of statism. Most people will not challenge opinions the “constitution” is applicable or relevant; it’s one of the most sacred of cows. All “revenue agents” I have had experience with, like most people, assume the “constitution” applies to everyone. No thought is given to any facts to prove where, when, why and how the “constitution” applies to anyone. It is very unsettling for a “revenue agent” to be challenged on the facts his opinion the “constitution” is applicable are based because he/she has not based it on any facts. Nobody enjoys having their map of reality ripped apart.
A personal injury cannot be proven because it cannot be proven the “United States” had a right to the property in question or the “required” action. If you doubt this, then read cases such as Perry v. United States, 294 U.S. 330 (1935). It’s tantamount to Al Capone filing a complaint against a shop owner for not paying his “protection” money. Think big Al would have standing?
in the particular case before it.” (emphasis mine).
Now some may protest by bringing up the murder argument, certainly there is the 1) violation of a legal right, and 2) personal injury. Not even in a murder case is there standing to complain. Why? Because it has to be a “personal injury” to the plaintiff: “A plaintiff must allege personal injury fairly traceable to the defendant's allegedly unlawful conduct and likely to be redressed by the requested relief.” Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737, 751 (1984) (emphasis mine).
The plaintiff is literally a spoken and written phrase, an abstraction called the “State of Arizona”, and is, at best, a fictional third party. The “Supreme Court” has repeatedly held: “we have explained that prudential standing encompasses "the general prohibition on a litigant's raising another person's legal rights…” Elk Grove Unified School District et al. v. Newdow et al., 542 U.S. 1 (2004).
And there’s no merit to claim the murdered person is a part of, or a member of, the so-called “State of Arizona” because there is no such thing as the “State of Arizona.” As I’ve written in my book Adventures in Legal Land and said many times on my radio show The No State Project, there are no such things as “citizens” and “states”.
Ad hominem attacks such as “Marc doesn't want people to wear seatbelts” are classic diversion tactics employed by those under the influence of statist mind control (remember the Stockholm syndrome). The fact bureaucrats never have a case has nothing to do with my opinion about seatbelts (I personally use them because it’s a safety issue), it’s because governments are gangs of killers, thieves and liars. There is no such thing as a legitimate government, so nothing they do is legitimate regardless of the endless red herrings statists throw up.
Government is men and women providing services on a compulsory basis; pay or get shot. To be legitimate they would have to drop their guns and provide their services on a voluntary basis. However, the moment they do so, they cease to be a government. That’s quite the conundrum.
Either you believe all human interaction should be voluntary or you don’t. Those who do not believe human interaction should be voluntary are, medically speaking, anti-social. Not un-social, but anti-social as in "sociopath" and "psychopath". I believe all human interaction should be voluntary, so ad hominem attacks that I think people who commit murder should not be held accountable are ridiculous.
Just using statism against itself proves bureaucrats never have a case regardless of what they “charge” someone with. That’s because statism and it’s supporting theology are not here to promote freedom or protect “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”; it’s mind control to divert our attention away from the actions of anti-social individuals who are so desperate to “protect” us they are willing to kill us and steal our property.
They will NEVER be found guilty criminaly (commercialy) for these 'crimes'.
Yes, I agree, they should be jailed or executed for this crime of 911. BUT, in all fairness the sustem was designed by man and onlyman can destroy it or be above it. We only have 1 law, thats the golden rule of do not harm another human being -live in peace. So criminal efforts will not happen, EVER and CANT happen..
sorry guys..im not being negative here, im just being truthfull. Heck I know how to beat the system in court haha (DONT CONTRACT!), I think they will know also how not to contract.
get what I mean? I have further text to back up what I mean if anyone on here doesnt get it.
Ill onlly post a bit of an article I have on file....
Bureaucrats Never Have a Case
Written by Administrator
Tuesday, 21 November 2006
It doesn’t matter what “charge”, indictment or complaint is brought against someone by a prosecutor; bureaucrats never have a case; their very nature dictates they can’t. While many would cry out in protest, no doubt those invested economically and/or emotionally in statism, it is nonetheless an accurate statement.
This is such a simple exercise; I only have to use statism against itself to prove it. By statism, I mean the belief “citizens” and “states” exist and the thought patterns supporting such beliefs.
Statism is mind control; people surrender their property to men and women pretending to be “governors” and “presidents” etc., because they believe they are “citizens” of a so-called “state” and “must pay their fair share.” Talk about abstract concepts.
Because of these beliefs, or programming, when a man pretending to be a “cop” or “state attorney” files a “complaint” against a statist, no attention is paid to the many absurdities present, even by the lawyer pretending he has a client, the so-called “state attorney.” The issue of standing is a great way of demonstrating these absurdities. One of these is despite the fact a “complaint” is filed, there is no “case” presented to the “court.” Statist programming equates “complaint” with “case.” People under the influence of such programming don’t challenge what a “cop” or “state” attorney files as both are perceived as“authority figures.” By that, I mean they do not challenge the assertion a “complaint” presents a “case” to a court.
Standing consists of two absolutely essential elements: 1) violation of a legal right, and 2) personal injury. Now I’ll apply this standard to “cases” brought by pretended “state” and “United States” attorneys.
First, we’ll look at a traffic case, such as failure to wear a seatbelt. Traffic cases represent a significant source of energy stolen from people every year. I get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt; the “case” is called State of Arizona v. Marc Stevens.
One of two requirements for standing is: “A plaintiff must allege personal injury…” Has the “State of Arizona” (a fiction) alleged I have caused a “personal injury” by not wearing a seatbelt? Of course not: that’s one essential element missing, I’ve already established the pretended plaintiff “is [not] entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). Allegations or not, there is no injury to anyone if I don't wear a seatbelt.
The other requirement is the violation of a legal right. Has the “State of Arizona” (a fiction) alleged I violated the pretended “state’s” rights? Again, not a chance. According to the “Supreme Court,” there is no standing to complain against me regardless of the fact I may not have had a seatbelt on.
No connection to the “constitution” can be made because the “constitution” is four pieces of paper no one bothered to sign. It binds no one and created nothing: same as any other pieces of paper from two hundred and thirty years ago. Unless you believe in magic, placing the words “constitution” on a piece of paper will not create an obligation on someone two hundred and thirty years later.
The “constitution” is a very effective anchor that usually pacifies those critical of statism. Most people will not challenge opinions the “constitution” is applicable or relevant; it’s one of the most sacred of cows. All “revenue agents” I have had experience with, like most people, assume the “constitution” applies to everyone. No thought is given to any facts to prove where, when, why and how the “constitution” applies to anyone. It is very unsettling for a “revenue agent” to be challenged on the facts his opinion the “constitution” is applicable are based because he/she has not based it on any facts. Nobody enjoys having their map of reality ripped apart.
A personal injury cannot be proven because it cannot be proven the “United States” had a right to the property in question or the “required” action. If you doubt this, then read cases such as Perry v. United States, 294 U.S. 330 (1935). It’s tantamount to Al Capone filing a complaint against a shop owner for not paying his “protection” money. Think big Al would have standing?
in the particular case before it.” (emphasis mine).
Now some may protest by bringing up the murder argument, certainly there is the 1) violation of a legal right, and 2) personal injury. Not even in a murder case is there standing to complain. Why? Because it has to be a “personal injury” to the plaintiff: “A plaintiff must allege personal injury fairly traceable to the defendant's allegedly unlawful conduct and likely to be redressed by the requested relief.” Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737, 751 (1984) (emphasis mine).
The plaintiff is literally a spoken and written phrase, an abstraction called the “State of Arizona”, and is, at best, a fictional third party. The “Supreme Court” has repeatedly held: “we have explained that prudential standing encompasses "the general prohibition on a litigant's raising another person's legal rights…” Elk Grove Unified School District et al. v. Newdow et al., 542 U.S. 1 (2004).
And there’s no merit to claim the murdered person is a part of, or a member of, the so-called “State of Arizona” because there is no such thing as the “State of Arizona.” As I’ve written in my book Adventures in Legal Land and said many times on my radio show The No State Project, there are no such things as “citizens” and “states”.
Ad hominem attacks such as “Marc doesn't want people to wear seatbelts” are classic diversion tactics employed by those under the influence of statist mind control (remember the Stockholm syndrome). The fact bureaucrats never have a case has nothing to do with my opinion about seatbelts (I personally use them because it’s a safety issue), it’s because governments are gangs of killers, thieves and liars. There is no such thing as a legitimate government, so nothing they do is legitimate regardless of the endless red herrings statists throw up.
Government is men and women providing services on a compulsory basis; pay or get shot. To be legitimate they would have to drop their guns and provide their services on a voluntary basis. However, the moment they do so, they cease to be a government. That’s quite the conundrum.
Either you believe all human interaction should be voluntary or you don’t. Those who do not believe human interaction should be voluntary are, medically speaking, anti-social. Not un-social, but anti-social as in "sociopath" and "psychopath". I believe all human interaction should be voluntary, so ad hominem attacks that I think people who commit murder should not be held accountable are ridiculous.
Just using statism against itself proves bureaucrats never have a case regardless of what they “charge” someone with. That’s because statism and it’s supporting theology are not here to promote freedom or protect “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”; it’s mind control to divert our attention away from the actions of anti-social individuals who are so desperate to “protect” us they are willing to kill us and steal our property.
QUOTE (Sanders @ Apr 10 2007, 04:10 AM)
Seems like they're cousins
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPer...rt-D-Walker-III
http://www.911myths.com/html/stratesec.html
http://www.911omissionreport.com/marvin_wirt.html
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPer...rt-D-Walker-III
http://www.911myths.com/html/stratesec.html
http://www.911omissionreport.com/marvin_wirt.html
If somebody actually cares enough about this potential distant link to prove or disprove it definitively, have at it.
Here's the story I have on the two ancestral lines so far:
Wirt III is said to be either a descendant of or a great grand nephew of Wirt Dexter Walker (1860-99), depending on the source- I've seen both claims. Wirt the first was the son of James M. Walker (1820-1880) (born in NH according to one source I saw).
Looking back to a similar time period in GWB's tree we find:
Thomas Walker?
George E Walker - (1797 - 1864)
David Davis Walker was born in near Bloomington, Illinois 19 Jan 1840
George Herbert Walker was born 11 Jun 1875.
So, if there is a cousinship at all here, it looks like you'd probably have to back around 6+ generations if not more to establish the exact relationship and then document it. Can we drop this one as a "sounds good" myth now?
I know we would all like somebody to "pay" for
all this but due to the seriousness of this situation...:
http://georgehaydukelives.blogspot.com
I think that this might work better.
imo, lunk
P.S. George put your videos back up somewhere,
please?
all this but due to the seriousness of this situation...:
http://georgehaydukelives.blogspot.com
I think that this might work better.
imo, lunk
P.S. George put your videos back up somewhere,
please?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm
Published on Saturday, June 22, 2002 by ABC News
The White Van
Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?
Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.
Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, had a view of the World Trade Center from her New Jersey apartment building. She remembers a neighbor calling her shortly after the first plane hit the towers.
She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.
Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said.
The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.
She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. Before long, the FBI was also on the scene, and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van.
The plate number was traced to a van owned by a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was spotted on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium. A police officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years old, in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and handcuffed by police.
The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.
‘We Are Not Your Problem’
According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.
When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned.
One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.
After the five men were arrested, the FBI got a warrant and searched Urban Moving's Weehawken, N.J., offices.
The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone.
Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.
The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.
‘A Scary Situation’
Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients' actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. "You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They're speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on 'em. One's got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that's a scary situation."
But Gordon insisted that his clients were just five young men who had come to America for a vacation, ended up working for a moving company, and were taking pictures of the event.
The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.
The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.
'Plenty of Speculation'
Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.
Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities' interest in the case was heightened when some of the men's names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.
Israeli Intelligence Connection?
According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence. Cannistraro said there was speculation as to whether Urban Moving had been "set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly in the New Jersey-New York area."
Under this scenario, the alleged spying operation was not aimed against the United States, but at penetrating or monitoring radical fund-raising and support networks in Muslim communities like Paterson, N.J., which was one of the places where several of the hijackers lived in the months prior to Sept. 11.
For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks — then failed it, according to his lawyer. Another of his lawyers told us Kurzberg had been reluctant to take the test because he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country.
Sources say the Israelis were targeting these fund-raising networks because they were thought to be channeling money to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, groups that are responsible for most of the suicide bombings in Israel. "[The] Israeli government has been very concerned about the activity of radical Islamic groups in the United States that could be a support apparatus to Hamas and Islamic Jihad," Cannistraro said.
The men denied that they had been working for Israeli intelligence out of the New Jersey moving company, and Ram Horvitz, their Israeli attorney, dismissed the allegations as "stupid and ridiculous."
Mark Regev, the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, goes even further, asserting the issue was never even discussed with U.S. officials.
"These five men were not involved in any intelligence operation in the United States, and the American intelligence authorities have never raised this issue with us," Regev said. "The story is simply false."
No ‘Pre-Knowledge’
Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11."
Sources also said that even if the men were spies, there is no evidence to conclude they had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. The investigation, at the end of the day, after all the polygraphs, all of the field work, all the cross-checking, the intelligence work, concluded that they probably did not have advance knowledge of 9/11," Cannistraro noted.
As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the attack on the Internet, couldn't see it from their offices and went to the parking lot for a better view. But no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct.
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.
While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS' questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.
Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."
ABCNEWS' Chris Isham, John Miller, Glenn Silber and Chris Vlasto contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2002 ABCNEWS Internet Ventures
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Published on Saturday, June 22, 2002 by ABC News
The White Van
Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?
Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.
Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, had a view of the World Trade Center from her New Jersey apartment building. She remembers a neighbor calling her shortly after the first plane hit the towers.
She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.
Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said.
The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.
She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. Before long, the FBI was also on the scene, and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van.
The plate number was traced to a van owned by a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was spotted on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium. A police officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years old, in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and handcuffed by police.
The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.
‘We Are Not Your Problem’
According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.
When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned.
One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.
After the five men were arrested, the FBI got a warrant and searched Urban Moving's Weehawken, N.J., offices.
The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone.
Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.
The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.
‘A Scary Situation’
Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients' actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. "You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They're speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on 'em. One's got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that's a scary situation."
But Gordon insisted that his clients were just five young men who had come to America for a vacation, ended up working for a moving company, and were taking pictures of the event.
The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.
The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.
'Plenty of Speculation'
Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.
Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities' interest in the case was heightened when some of the men's names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.
Israeli Intelligence Connection?
According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence. Cannistraro said there was speculation as to whether Urban Moving had been "set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly in the New Jersey-New York area."
Under this scenario, the alleged spying operation was not aimed against the United States, but at penetrating or monitoring radical fund-raising and support networks in Muslim communities like Paterson, N.J., which was one of the places where several of the hijackers lived in the months prior to Sept. 11.
For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks — then failed it, according to his lawyer. Another of his lawyers told us Kurzberg had been reluctant to take the test because he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country.
Sources say the Israelis were targeting these fund-raising networks because they were thought to be channeling money to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, groups that are responsible for most of the suicide bombings in Israel. "[The] Israeli government has been very concerned about the activity of radical Islamic groups in the United States that could be a support apparatus to Hamas and Islamic Jihad," Cannistraro said.
The men denied that they had been working for Israeli intelligence out of the New Jersey moving company, and Ram Horvitz, their Israeli attorney, dismissed the allegations as "stupid and ridiculous."
Mark Regev, the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, goes even further, asserting the issue was never even discussed with U.S. officials.
"These five men were not involved in any intelligence operation in the United States, and the American intelligence authorities have never raised this issue with us," Regev said. "The story is simply false."
No ‘Pre-Knowledge’
Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11."
Sources also said that even if the men were spies, there is no evidence to conclude they had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. The investigation, at the end of the day, after all the polygraphs, all of the field work, all the cross-checking, the intelligence work, concluded that they probably did not have advance knowledge of 9/11," Cannistraro noted.
As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the attack on the Internet, couldn't see it from their offices and went to the parking lot for a better view. But no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct.
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.
While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS' questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.
Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."
ABCNEWS' Chris Isham, John Miller, Glenn Silber and Chris Vlasto contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2002 ABCNEWS Internet Ventures
Related thread at:
What Did Israel Know In Advance Of The 9/11 Attack, March 7, 2007 - Counterpunch
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....t&p=8253733
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