[b]1. Claim - There are No pilots at pilotsfor911truth.org[/b]

[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html[/url]

All above names who are pilots certified by the FAA can be cross referenced here...
[url="https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/"]https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/[/url]

Pilots Question 9/11 (photos here)
[url="http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html"]http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html[/url]




[b]2. Claim - The FDR Data stops/is missing 2-6 seconds of data west of the pentagon wall[/b]

FDR Recorders built to .5 sec lag maximum standard
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7152"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=7152[/url]

Radar Altitude Confirms too high
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4801"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=4801[/url]

NTSB plots aircraft 1 second away from pentagon wall.
[url="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/093744.jpg"]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myp...1960/093744.jpg[/url]
[url="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/jimritter.jpg"]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myp...0/jimritter.jpg[/url]

American 77 Flight Recorder Position Data - DME Video
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=10751"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=10751[/url]

Lat/Long/DME
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5388&view=findpost&p=8305238"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...t&p=8305238[/url]

Putting Fdr "delay" Myth To Rest
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=13846"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=13846[/url]

INS vs DME
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=15047"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=15047[/url]


[b]2a. Claim - The data file terminates at a point west of the Pentagon based on altitude correlation of the MC values recorded by the PLA and IAD radar facilities and the full set of DME data matched to the various VOR's used along the flight path. [/b]

FDR Positional/DME Data obtained from a file (RO2) which was decoded by software not intended for use with Aircraft Accident Investigation. Above claim ignores this point. Pilots For 9/11 Truth have not used RO2 for any official analysis published on our main site due to this point alone. Although, we have shown Radar Altitude from RO2 in conjunction with claims made still place the aircraft too high. See claim 3.

Above Radar data processed by a person with an extreme bias for the govt story, has made numerous math errors in the past regarding simple vector analysis and has been shown to be in error of their radar analysis. Above claimant does not know the difference between pressure and true altitude and has admitted a "large potential for human error" in his Radar plot/analysis. When invited for debate by a 3rd party moderator on above claim(s), P4T accepted, claimant refused.

"In general, the final AA77 data in the raw [radar] file differs materially from the processed file."
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?s=&showtopic=16413&view=findpost&p=10765222"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10765222[/url]

"aa77" Final Approach Ground Speed Determination From The 84rades Radar Data, 84Rades and FDR data mutually INCONSISTENT?
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=15913"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=15913[/url]

Altitude Correlation determined above based on primary RADES radar returns. NTSB states. "... [b]the altitude estimates from these returns are subject to potentially large errors[/b]" when attempting to correlate primary RADES altitude data for Egypt Air 990.

Points within the RADES Data have the alleged AA77 in excess of 50,000 feet.
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=13211"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=13211[/url]

RADES Altitude Data is not reliable for correlating position.

Altitude Data impossible to correlate due to inoperative Mode C.

Nav 1 DME recorded 1.5 NM off DCA VOR. The above claim ignores this point.
American 77 Flight Recorder Position Data - DME Video
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=10751"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=10751[/url]

DME Slant Range errors are ignored by above claim.

Repetitive DME returns in excess of regulation intervals in RO2 ignored by above claim.

INS Errors are ignored by above claim (AA77 RO2 positional data shows aircraft departing roughly 3,000 feet south of IAD Runway 30. Illustration - [url="http://www.aa77fdr.com/readout2/LNTTTPos.jpg"]http://www.aa77fdr.com/readout2/LNTTTPos.jpg[/url]

INS vs DME
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=15047"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=15047[/url]

See Claim 2 for more information on "missing seconds".


[b]3. Claim - There is altimeter lag in the animation and csv file due to flying outside the aircraft envelope.[/b]

Airdata Calibration and Measurement
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=103"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...p?showtopic=103[/url]

FDR Vertical Speed - Altimeter lag issues Addressed
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=73"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...hp?showtopic=73[/url]

Radar Altitude Confirms too High
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4801"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=4801[/url]

Reserved - more info forthcoming



[b]4. Claim - The Information that P4T has analyzed may not be from the NTSB (P4T may have fabricated the information and claims it came from the NTSB)[/b]

csv file download and cover letters provided by Undertow
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=64"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...hp?showtopic=64[/url]

Raw data decode provided by Undertow
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4574"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=4574[/url]

Animation cover letters/envelope provided by Snowgrouch
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=375"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...p?showtopic=375[/url]

Animation cover letters provided by Mick Harrison
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=6205"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=6205[/url]

Reserved - More forthcoming

Animation provided by Third party on google video
[url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6529691284366443405&q=AA77+Animation"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65...=AA77+Animation[/url]

George Washington University NTSB Data
[url="http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/index.htm"]http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/index.htm[/url]

NTSB FOIA Website
[url="http://www.ntsb.gov/info/foia_fri.htm"]http://www.ntsb.gov/info/foia_fri.htm[/url]

NTSB FOIA Contact - Melba D. Moye
202-314-6000

NTSB FOIA Request form -
[url="http://www.ntsb.gov/pubmail/pubmail.asp"]http://www.ntsb.gov/pubmail/pubmail.asp[/url]



[b]5. Claim - The csv file and animation show a heading along the official flight path.[/b]

csv file heading does not line up perfectly with physical damage
[url="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/pentagonASpaint1.jpg"]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myp...gonASpaint1.jpg[/url]

American 77 Flight Path in 3D
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8166"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=8166[/url]

csv file was altered to show southern approach
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5083"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=5083[/url]

ThePentaCon
[url="http://thepentacon.com"]http://thepentacon.com[/url]



[b]6. Claim - Pilots For 9/11 Truth has not provided all the data[/b]

We have provided all data which pertains to all published research and analysis that is not proprietary in nature. All information/data can be found on links above. The only information we cannot and do not provide is a proprietary Data Frame Layout which does not change our analysis in any way. Undertow can expand on this more when he sees this post.




[b]7. Claim - Cover Letter Dated March 22, 2007 says Animation not "Official" that its a "working copy"[/b]

Animation cover letter provided by Mick Harrison
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=6205"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=6205[/url]

Animation isnt the only information we have. We also have a Raw file and csv file (see above).

However, the cover letter states the animation "was not used for official purpose" which means it was never used in an investigation. It is an official copy since it was officially provided through the Freedom Of Information Act and from the NTSB. The NTSB notes in the cover letter that they want everything as accurate as possible when providing information through the FOIA, however they note one error which was made to the clock annotation. They do not account for any other possible errors regarding the animation in this cover letter.

Given the fact that all we really need is the last data point - we offer the following article.
FDR Recorders built to .5 sec lag maximum standard
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7152"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=7152[/url]

[b]8. Claim -
The Flight Data Recorder was found in the Pentagon. How can it be too high?[/b]

[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7322"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=7322[/url]

Can the Govt Get Their Story Straight? - Location of FDR
[url="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/FDR_location_091607.html"]http://pilotsfor911truth.org/FDR_location_091607.html[/url][/quote]