Get out and tell people then! Using meetup.com, we have a Ron Paul meetup group that is meeting tomorrow. Alot of the members are from our 9/11 meetup group. We are taking signs out and telling people about Ron Paul. Our 9/11 group is doing things for the 11th and we have a meetup at the end of this month where i will show some 9/11 documentaries.

Here's a Ron Paul supporter and what her meetup group did:

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hzRMaXngzSo" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed>

Bonez that's awesome. I'm doing the same thing. I just started a Meet-up group in my area because there was nothing close to me, but there were like 5 people who said they "wanted" one.

so i paid the $20 and started the group a little over a week ago. We have 8 members, and many of them are bringing more people. One of the members went to NH for the debate the other night, and he said that Ron had 300 people there supporting him, and it was more than Rudy McRomney combined.

We have our first meeting on Sunday, where we'll be discussing how we want to campaign.

This is going to be fun.

It's the only way this guy is going to have a chance. If we really want a change, we have to do it ourselves. About 50 million people voted for Bush and Kerry each in '04...that's only 1/6 of the population for each candidate. That really shouldn't be that hard, if the grassroots campaigning around the country can get enough people involved. Word of mouth spreads fast.

I suggest putting together DVD's of all clips of Ron Paul speaking...MSM interviews, debates, Daily Show...that, along with literature about him should go a long way to getting people interested.

I'm going to my first Ron Paul meetup group tonight. There's supposed to be about 20 people there. A few of those who had signed up backed out when the organizer of the group sent out an email with a link to a video about Masons and the Illuminati. Not very committed apparently. And yes, my 9/11 meetup group got a few folks from the Ron Paul group. Should be interesting to say the least.

Our first meet-up went well. I was very pleased to see the creativity from all the members that showed up last Mon. Kathy did a very good job getting out the supplies for the Ron Paul sign being made.

Here’s ours group
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/18

What a great idea - good work, people!

Awesome!

BoneZ, that little clip was great - I LOVE her last line: "we're gonna be spamming the voting booths here pretty soon..."

Pinned. This is how the Internet Revolution begins. Bringing people together to make change.

Awesome work guys. Spread the word.

REVOLUTION CALLING
REVOLUTION CALLING
THERES A REVOLUTION CALLING YOU

Cary, how'd the meeting go?



This is why i'm glad Ron leaves 9/11 out of his campaign. Many people might not be ready for that yet, but still like Ron's vision.

There's plenty of time for him to handle that after he gets elected.

We had about 10 people show up while I was there. Unfortunately, the organizer (a college student) was high on oxycontyn (sp?) or some pain killer because he'd been in a head on collision over the weekend. He was chattering like a monkey in a tree, and shivering uncontrollably. He looked like a junkie coming down from a high - jonesing, I think it's called. Thankfully, those in attendance were understanding and a young woman who had been in contact with him ahead of the meeting took over the moderating duties and made it a good meeting. We need to get this group going down here.

What's interesting is that my 9/11 meetup group has been picking up members consistently over the last week, while the Ron Paul group has been losing members. I think another Ron Paul meetup group will be formed out of the semi-clusterfuck that happened this past week.

I think some people are just downright ANTI-REPUBLICAN after the mess their party has created over the past 6 years (this includes Repub Congressmen because they didn't stop the dangerous things this ADMIN has done. So they are just as guilty because they've had no spine). I don't like the idea of the appearance of rewarding the lame Republicans either.

However, I belive in RON PAUL and his message. So right now HE IS THE ONLY ONE I WOULD VOTE FOR. He is HONEST, INTELLIGENT, INFORMED, KNOWS MONETARY POLICY and FOREIGN POLICY, and MR. CONSTITUTION. He is AMERICA'S HOPE, so I hope those people will change their mind and at least start doing their homework on PAUL. He has tons of info on the internet, and if you spend time reading it, you will be IMPRESSED. HE IS A TRUE PATRIOT!

Well Jo, Ron is a traditional republican, as i'm sure you know.

The republicans in the government right now in now way, shape, or form represent real republicans.

I think he is running initially as republican so that he can garner the most possible exposure by being able to attend the nationally televised debates, be included in polls, and get at least SOME type of mainstream media coverage.

While his nomination by the republican party is obviously more than a long shot, he is gaining national attention, and can always fall back to Libertarian so he can be included on the '08 ballot.

It's probably the smartest thing the man could do.

It's almost guaranteed that the Republican party won't nominate him, but i really hope that he can still be on the '08 ballot. It's about the only way he will be president.

Whoever wins the popular vote, wins Larry the Cable guys vote first!!

Get r' Done

it fascinates me.

this slobbering over ron paul. who promotes the notion that someones other than agents of the usa/israel were responsible for the events of 11/09/01.

if ron paul really believes that mohammed atta and his fellow saudis were responsible for the events of that day, then ron paul is just another apologist for the bushit/fascist state.

if ron paul is the anti-fascist that some proclaim him to be, then he should be expressing the realities of that day.

and you know what those realities are, don't you?

suffice it to say, the governing reality is that the entirety of the usg's official sty is complete fiction.

why is ron paul reluctant to state that truth?

ron paul gives cover to the bushit sty about that day when he excuses the attack as the consequence of blowback.

excuse me, no arabs[of any nationality] had anything to do with the events of that day.

no aircraft were hijacked.

no wtc buildings were demolished because of aircraft impacts.

no airliner collided with the pentagram.

and no airliner augured into a small hole in pennsylvania.

everything the usg has told us about that day is a grotesque lie.

and ron paul refuses to reveal those prevarications. he wants you to believe that the events as related by the bushit regime are true. but that there was some legitimate reason[blowback] for that attack.

ron paul is just another republican disinformation agent.

deal with that truth.

until you encounter a candidate who relates how the usg lied about the events of that day, was directly responsible for the events of that day, you will know that you are living in a stalinist country.

ron paul is just another stalinist. in the main, he believes in the bushit/cheney official story. he just thinks that there is another rationale to explain al-fresco's action.

it is so sad that so many fail to understand the failings of paul's cerebrations.

never forget, he is just another republican fascist bastid.

"never forget, he is just another republican fascist bastid"


NO HE IS NOT !

Ron Paul has a long and untarnished RECORD of voting in Congress

FOR THE CONSTITUTION

AGAINST THE ZIONIST AGENDA

Get a clue, 'bert

because he's running for president of the US, and anything else would be political suicide. We're not at critical mass yet with 9/11. It isn't the mainstream accepted idea, and it will lose him votes.

how many times does this need to be explained?

don't you want someone other than the same evil corporate pieces of sh*t in office?

the media and the establishment see this man as a threat...he wants to abolish the Fed...we need to take what we can get.

if you really think ron paul believes the official story, than you need to learn more about the man.



he's playing politics. but it's good politics, it's politics that benefit the PEOPLE.

yeah, 9/11 was obviously an inside job, but you know, there ARE people out there that really do want to come here and bomb us...it's not like there aren't any "terrorists" out there. The overall amount of them, and their overall aggression towards us and ability to actually attack us are obviously GREATLY exaggerated, but nonetheless there are some pissed off muslims.

And the blowback from the US foreign policy is what has pissed them off...Ron's not lying when he says this!! he's just being tactful so that he can get the votes of the people who aren't yet on board with 9/11 truth.

look what the media tried to do to him just for giving the blowback scenario!! It's the truth, though. But they tried to make it look like he "blamed america". That's ridiculous, but thats how the establishment feels about Ron.

imagine if he said he thought 9/11 was an inside job. He'd be plastered all over the news everyday with unamerican this, unpatriotic that...he'd be DONE as far as running for president.

we bitch and moan about the constitution being sh*t on, and then we finally get a legitimate candidate that cherishes it, and you want to discredit him with 9/11?

i don't get it.

we are nowhere in this info war...we think we are, but we aren't. we're not even close.

a man like Ron Paul gives us a chance.

So give HIM a chance.

Well said mo fiya. Ron Paul can't talk about 9/11 as an inside job if he expects to get anywhere. And like mo fiya said, he's the ONLY ONE who is a staunch Constitutionalist. You got a better candidate albert champion?? Not in this lifetime.

And he could even be DONE as a living, breathing human being.

Ron Paul is doing a dangerous dance as it is, calling for an honest money system and abolishment of the IRS. Abraham Lincoln and JFK were starting to or planning on having the government print money instead of the banks. And look what happened to them.

And when questioned, Ron Paul responded regarding Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11 that; "they're cover-ups, basically". I think it takes courage for an elected official to say even this much.

Ron Paul is smart and he is pushing it as far as he dares. We now live in a fascist country. How far do YOU want him to push it, albertchampion? Until he's not with us anymore?

Get ready for the fed to cut back on the MO NAY supply.


AS oil goes above $100/Barrel....

Arron Russo,
where are you now that we need a voice to speak for our creedo

Lee Harvey Oswald,

Where are you now that we need your special talents....

Duplicity is NOT good politics.
He led Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth to believe he supported the Truth Movement but when a talk show host sited the ensuing web postings and asked him directly if he thought 9/11 was an inside job, he said "Absolutely not!"
[he could have been a little vague but no, he was absolute]
He says 9/11 was due to "Blowback".
[sounds like a rebel but he backs the OCT.....Muslim extremists did it]

Either he is lying to the entire nation about his view of 9/11 or he is misleading the Truth Movement.


ETA: "he's playing politics. but it's good politics, it's politics that benefit the PEOPLE."

Sounds a bit Orwellian.

Chris Sarns pimps gungrabbers but will lie about people who don't piss aware their potential to endorse his pet theories. There is little logic to anything he says...

I pointed out that Ron Paul is just another two faced politician telling both sides what they want to hear.

Case in point. Nothing you say should be taken seriously.

Do you take RP seriously when he says "9/11 was ABSOLUTELY NOT an inside job" ?
Do you take him seriously when he says it was "Blowback" ?

I take him far more seriously than anyone should take you. Your pet theories and constant whining don't hold a candle to Dr. Paul's record. Fact.

On another thread you said he was a liar.

chris sarns
He can't support impeachment and get the Republican nomination but he wants you to think he does.
So who is he lying to, you or them?

UnderTow
Them.
He's playing to win.

Roxdog
Exactly.

So how can you take him seriously?

Big Brother just loves to see division within the ranks. Let's find some more things we can all disagree on and sling insults back and forth about, eh? Then Big Brother will just keep rolling out the NWO agenda. Divide and Conquer. Classic strategy. Big Brother doesn't like it when ordinary people set aside differences and work together towards a common cause. That could be trouble for Big Brother.

Keep up the good work here.

Okay, Big Brother was in a sarcastic mood when he wrote the above. It happens to the best of us. No offense intended, hopefully none was taken by anyone. I did get a few PMs over that message, so I thought it was worth a public respnse. Big Brother will tread more lightly in the future.

I respect the work being done here, as do the friends I'm working with, so no offense or disrespect was intended. But we need to find common ground as much as possible. As I said, divide and conquer...

i do recommend that you folks forsake ron paul.

he ain't going nowhere.

nationally, he polls at about 2-4%.

i think ralph nader scored better.

let us consider some things....

no contestant is going to question the "official" story of 11/09/01. ron paul could. but, even as a maverick, he won't. he really believes in the primacy of the state[no matter how evil and corrupt it is]

as to the federal reserve and the bankers' control of this nation's economy, no opponent of that thieving entity will ever come close to being nominated.

and then there are the "moral" issues....

why would i want to see a ron paul as president? who sees that the state has the right to control bedroom issues[i.e., opposes abortion, possibly contraception]. is that pov any different from any of the other fascist bastids?

the drug "war". has ron paul repudiated the dea? the drug czar, john walters? have you ever heard him outline the reasons for the termination of this war? i haven't.

have you ever heard ron paul demand that all the financials of politicians[and their families] be available for public scrutiny? i haven't.

ron paul is a side show. and not a good one.

he isn't the answer. will never be the answer to amerika's problems.

regrettably, the only answer is a revolution. but of course the demtillian, reptillian totalitarians have made that impossible by their false flag ops and the various versions of the patriot act.

no, ron paul will not be getting us any closer to an anti-totalitarian scheme.

The polls? The one's that are conducted by calling the whopping 6% of all republicans who actually bothered to show up and vote in the 2004 primaries?

Do you realize how few of an amount of people that is? Do you also realize those were the hardcore Bush christians?

Do you realize that RP's base is made up of so many people who wouldn't meet the specific demographic that is used in conducting those polls? All the people who never voted before? All the people who in 2004 were too young to even VOTE yet? All the people who have switched parties, and registered Republican only THIS YEAR, so they can vote for Ron? How do you expect all of those people to even be included when the only people being called are the couple nutcases who still thought Bush was awesome, and showed up at the primaries in 2004 when he was running UNOPPOSED ANYWAY?

Do you realize they are conducted by land-line phone calls, and that probably a majority of RP supporters don't even use land-line phones to conduct their daily communicative lives?

Screw the "polls". They mean NOTHING, and have historically been inaccurate anyway when compared to the physical vote.

"reptillian totalitarians". Ok dude. Too much Icke for you, I think.

I think you either have some serious researching to do about RP that it's obvious you haven't done, or you should just stay out of campaign issues and keep pushing 9/11. At least if you kept pushing 9/11, you'd be doing some kind of good.

And who do you think will help this country, if not RP? You just think that it will all work itself out, through the obvious division there is amongst the 9/11 movement NOW? We're so divided, that we're already conquered if we don't wise up and come together.

I've seen more common ACUTE UNITY in the last 8 months of RP's campaign growth and success, and the movement that has ensued, then I've EVER seen among the 9/11 movement.

I mean this in all sincerity, because you are of course a fellow truther, and not a close-minded controlled sheep: YOU NEED TO WISEN UP.

National Polls are absolute sh*t.

Do you read the details on those. They call around 500-600 people. Usually people from the Rep/Dem database of registered voters.
How many people have attending Straw Polls?
How many people have donated?
How many people have shown up to a meetup?

The sample they use for the national polls is the absolute worst and should carry an error of +/- 50%

The only thing stopping Ron Paul is the controlled media. It is almost against the law to mention him.

I swear.

Ron Paul is the leading candidate. Period. No matter how hard they try to suppress him or ignore him, or attack him.

These two policies make RP absolutely positively unelectable.
Seniors vote and these issues will get every dam one of us to the polls.

RP wants to turn Medicare over to the states which would result in 50 unequal underfunded programs.
Medicare is better left at the federal level.

RP wants to privatize SS.
• Allow young people to get out of the system. (Oct 2007)
• Personal retirement accounts allow investing in one's future. (Sep 2007)
• Federal government won't keep its entitlement promises. (Mar 2007)
• Voted YES on raising 401(k) limits & making pension plans more portable. (May 2001)
• Voted YES on reducing tax payments on Social Security benefits. (Jul 2000)
• Voted NO on strengthening the Social Security Lockbox. (May 1999)
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

The problem with SS is we keep reelecting the criminals who keep spending our retirement fund like there was no tomorrow.

If we raise the maximum earnings subject to the SS/Medicare tax, and vote for only those candidates who will pledge to balance the budget, we can save SS.
It's really up to us, we have the government we deserve either by voting for spendaholics or not voting at all.

You are on crack or something.

Your opinion on those two issues is only surpassed by your incredible solutions.

I can not believe you actually believe what you just typed. It boggles my mind at your constant double speak and impossibilities.

Let me shorten your mind phlegm.



You are on crack and must be living in a different world from me. Sorry.
The only thing making RP unelectable is your own self-inflicted mental block.

Try telling some senior citizens RP wants to turn Medicare over to the 50 states, phase out SS and see what kind of responses you get.

If I was trying to scare them, then I might put it like that.

But being honest, I would inform them that since they are already on it, it won't be going <poof> on them.

Stop being a troll and spreading FUD.

Note the term 'phase out'. And what wrong with the 50 States.

Would you prefer 'end' to 'phase out'?
If young people are allowed to opt out and decide to do so, there won't be enough money for the 'baby boomer's

SS works and it will continue to work if we demand with our vote that Congress stop raiding the SS account, balance the budget and start paying back all the money they have borrowed.

IT'S UP TO US!

Not some knight in shining armor who will make everything all right if we just wait and hope he gets elected.

Please


What's better, 1 Medicare plan that's administered for about 3% and treats everyone equally or 50 different unequal plans.
The administration costs would be much more and what if you move from one state to another? There would be no central control. States would have different rules and conditions.
It's a bad idea.

Seriously young man, ask some seniors. Sugarcoat it any way you like.

That boat don't float.

Your FUD and misconceptions ...

Don't worry, if Paul get's elected, the sun will still rise and the earth will not stop spinning.

Where do you come from anyway...

Last time I checked, Congress doesn't give a crap about our vote.

We need new Leadership, and Paul is my only choice. Period.

Paul would like to allow yonger people to opt out of SS, because the fact is that money will not be there for them anyway, by the time they would need it.

Sarns, you obviously must realize the state of our economy right now, with all the over-spending already...our dollar is hanging on by a thread, but you think younger generations should just be giving their hard earned dollars to a program that by the time they are old enough to qualify, won't even exist?

I'm amazed that anyone who is a 9/11 truther could be so Liberal as you. It's big government, and out of control spending that has caused almost every one of the problems we face right now. Even the people in government claiming to be limited government, fiscal conservatives are really just big government liberals in disguise. It's OBVIOUS. They can't hide it, they have a voting record that PROVES it.

Ron's the only one who actually matches his rhetoric with his actions. And he tells us the truth while he does it. How can you not be pleased about that?

Before you can be worried about our SS system, you ought to be worried about our economy, and whether or not there's even going to be any dollars LEFT in it that are WORTH something.

But you go ahead...keep advocating even more spending, and when you run out of money to spend, just tax the ever loving sh*t out of us to pay for it...print some more fake money too, to put into the SS system, while you're at it.
Then there will be some paper there for you. It might not be WORTH anything, but at least it will be there in spirit.

Congress holds the purse strings.

It's up to US to elect a congress that WILL LISTEN TO US!

We tried that last time you daft wizard of cats.

What's the title of this Topic?

Go fart somewhere else chris, you stink.

If we elect a congress that will stop raiding the SS account, start paying it back and raise the maximum amount subject to SS tax, SS will be there for your generation.

The Truth Movement is neither liberal or conservative.
I am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative.
I advocate a balanced budget, pay off the national debt, eliminate corporate welfare,
Get out of the WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA and The World Bank.

Then get rid of the pork, not essential programs.

Then elect people who will stop runaway non essential spending and cooperate welfare like the Prescription bill and the Farm bill.


He cannot do it by himself. Any President has to have a majority in Congress that will cut the pork and corporate welfare.

It's up to US to elect a congress that will be fiscally responsible.
The one we now have is NOT!

Put some of your time and energy checking out your Senators and Representatives and if they fail the 'fiscally responsible' test, then actively support someone pledging to stop raiding the SS fund and balance the budget.

Try again


Want Ron Paul To Be President?

No, because he would kill SS and Medicare!

There's a whole big group of people who run for office every election cycle that never get elected, because the people are still too controlled by the status-quo.

Go here, and you will see the one's who get good marks. http://www.libertycongress.org/

Then, coordinate with those members and help get their matching peers elected nationwide.

But the best way to do that, would be to change the public's perception of just WHO should be in office. If Ron Paul were president, it would provide for a mass awakening of people. I mean, people who have just become his supporters are already DOING this! The Plan B, shuold Ron not get the nomination, and not get elected at all, is going to be, so far as I can tell, to continue on with this huge momentum of support nationwide for LIBERTY, and use the same fundraising techniques that have been used to help Paul.

Ron Paul, whether you like him or not, has created a grassroots movement not seen in a LOOOOONG time. His platform could signlehandedly spark an entire revolution in this country to create the entire change we need. That's how I see his candidacy at this point. It's not just about HIM, or just his MESSAGE anymore, that I'm impressed with. I'm impressed at the action people have taken since his message has gotten out there. It's SO POWERFUL, and you just can't deny that. The establishment is HATING it.

Forget about your Lib/Con pet peeves right now, and think about the entire situation. He wouldn't likely achieve those goals you don't approve of anyway, at least not right away. So much bigger change is needed in this country right now than SS and Medicare.

You got anyone else that's better suited to spark this movement and revolution at this point?



You just named Ron Paul! That could have literally been cut and paste from his own website.

You know of anyone else who is running right now ANYWHERE, that even REMOTELY has the chances of making that happen, as Ron does right now?

And you're arguing entitlements?!?!?

I actively supported Charlie Brown in his bid to unseat Doolittle. We came within 3%. We'll get him this time.

I agree with RP on those issues and his position on the war in Iraq.

However

RP wants to get out of the UN as well. I disagree.

I disagree on his position supporting the OCT "Muslim extremists did it"

I disagree with his belief that:
“I don’t think right now you have enough evidence to show that somebody deliberately lied.”

The proof that Cheney lied about WMD's is in the first article of the impeachment resolution.

RP voted to kill the impeachment resolution and pretended to be for it.
I've had my fill of double talk and two faced politicians.

Chris, you are a lying SOS


f**k off

I find it to be extremely odd, and hard to understand, that you think that if and when the time comes that someone YOU actually like will individually come along and rescue us from the establishment, that somehow they'll even be ABLE to talk about 9/11 conspiracy theory. You think they'll hang around long spreading that message? You think they'll get the airtime Ron does?

Why is it that even though Ron has personally said he supports a new 9/11 investigation, and refers to the original one as a cover-up, that's either not enough, or you don't believe him, and when people think he's racist and connected to Stormfront, and they're shown the obvious evidence to prove that he's not, it's either not good enough, or they don't believe him?

It's called believing what you WANT to believe, regardless of facts.

We have to rely on the media to get our word out to the masses. We REJOICE when we get MSM coverage, and here's a guy who's getting MSM overage, and talking about the issues we never thought ANYONE would talk about that had any power to do anything. He does, and he happens to be grabbing up regular people, just people who want his kind of change, but haven't yet gotten on board with 9/11 truth. If he goes all out 9/11 truth, his coverage is over (after a thorough run through the proverbial ringer), and so is his campaign. In 5, 10, 20 years, we'll be talking about that guy who used to actually call for the end to the IRS and the Federal Reserve that got character murdered by the media into oblivion. If only he'd have just stayed quiet A LITTLE LONGER.

9/11 truth is responsible for the horrible death that has ensued since, but it's not the cornerstone of everything that matters in this country. It's important to spread the word, but it's also important to keep ourselves UNITED. Ron Paul unites so many people that wouldn't normally be united, and 9/11 truth divides us more than ever.

You know what, I'm tired of arguing for Ron Paul. Why don't you just go ahead and vote for Obama. I'm sure he'll do everything he can to make sure that SS and Medicare are existent, prosperous, and relevent by the time you reach that point in your life.

Your arrogance has you so blinded, you can't see the forest for the trees.

I read your post and i've been f***ing off all evening.

Thanx.

You're right about the SOS but i am NOT i liar!

Would you care to point out where you think i lied?

You got it backwards. RP supporters seem to think he will 'rescue us' from the establishment.

Again, you think RP is 'OUR ONLY HOPE'
Is it about air time or is it about issues?
I support Kucinich because he's the only one making sense imo.
RP is spot on on many issues but killing the IRS and not replacing it is absurd imo.
How the hell is he going to pay off the 10 trillion $ national debt?

He went as far as he could with the 911 thing but the problem is, he thinks It was Muslim extremists.

I'm burned out. I'll finish this tomorrow.

Peace

Chris

Over 110,000 people voted in IndependentPrimary.Com.

Kucinich won over 75% of the votes cast on the Democratic side. (And Rep. Ron Paul won overwhelmingly on the Republican side).

RP is not the only one who has grass roots support.

No one has voted yet and MSM has the election all but decided.

The NH primary should prove very interesting.


I'm going to back off on the RP bashing.

From now on i'll just point out where i disagree with him.

(When i read his statement to the House, i got really pissed)

It looks like we could have a Kucinich, Paul or a Paul, Kucinich ticket to vote for.

My fundamental differences with Paul; SS, Medicare, IRS, the UN and the separation of church and state, make it near impossible for me to vote for Paul, Kucinich, but we'll see.