http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=21...543144757&hl=nl





This is a video of "Aziz El Hallan". He claims he was on his way to work with his girlfriend when he drove past the Pentagon on 9/11. He claims the plane passed over his car. He claims that the plane got sucked into the building leaving nothing on the outside. He claims it was an American Airlines 757. He claims a piece of plane landed by his car. He claims he stood out by the Pentagon for about 20 minutes. He claims he is a pilot (although I can find no record his license). Note the part where he starts to grin as the news caster breaks into a somber statement about the plane and the attack.

The question is why was he at the Navy Annex less than 5 minutes after the event and where is his girlfriend?



I noticed him while staring at the Jason Ingersoll photos. Interestingly, this photo is omitted from the sequence of photos released by the DoD, noted in WD's posts.

Here is the photo missing from your links WD:




EDIT: Turned on /doHTML/ for this forum

I guess he's just a lying sack of sh*t.

What I want to know is, did the people at the news studio let that guy walk out of there with that piece of "the plane" like it was a souvenir and he owned it?

Like he caught Barry Bonds record breaking ball?!?!?!

Assuming he brought the "piece of the plane" into the studio with him, they'd have no authority to stop him from taking it home. The FBI is another matter.

Rumsfeld has a "piece of the plane" mounted in his office at the Pentagon. I'm not sure he ever left there even after his resignation as Sec. of DoD. He was staying on as a consultant.

Watching him smirk through the entire interview makes me want to puke.

Well spotted Aldo.
He definatley looks as if he is grinning. I don't like the way he is swinging from side to side on his chair either.
To me, he doesn't look like someone who has just witnessed the most horrific thing they have ever seen.
Suspicious, I think.

Any records of this guy in Arlington or Washington? Any ways to track him?

There is no record for him in Zabasearch. I am assuming he would be hard to find, unless he came forward. He also mentioned being a pilot. Landings.com's FAA database does not show him as a pilot.

This poster on 911 blogger thought the same thing I did.

Congrats Mer... ermmm... Marquis

for uncovering this rotten plant.

He will face justice some day.

Just call me Mercquis.

I think that shot of him is pretty conclusive. The boys from Italy were 110% on it being him.

In the image it says 5-7 minutes after event. I spoke with Jason Ingersoll he said he was out there in a few minutes. Like 2-3.

The guys from Italy are always right

I've noticed that in the case of the Pentagon, there are two kinds of witnesses: Those who appear to be honest individuals pointing out exactly what they saw that day - even if it is in direct conflict with the official story - and then there are "witnesses" like Hallan who sensationalize the incident, and tell the media exactly what they want to hear.

We must remember that if it were not for the dubious testimony of individuals like Hallan, supporters of the OCT would have absolutely no evidence in support of a 757 impact, since the cause of the "downed" light poles and generator damage is a moot point (both could easily have been staged by the use of explosives/pneumatic charges etc).

If I had my way, I'd have all witnesses who claim to have seen an American Airlines jet either polygraphed or questioned under the influence of a truth serum. Of course, it's highly unlikely that any of these people would consent (for obvious reasons), however, it may help to clear up this matter once and for all!

Witness Isabelle James was driving down Columbia Pike with her husband Michael James, a Navy information technician:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=89...01088&hl=nl


http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2...D-02-10002.JPEG
http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2...D-03-10659.JPEG

Interesting how Isabel James seems seperated from her husband Michael in the above photos. She also seems to be holding a walkie talkie or perhaps a nextel? Were nextels that popular in 2001? What would she be doing down there? Did Michael try to help in the rescue and they got separated? Or was there something else going on?

It is probably nothing. And may not even be her.



She said they were on Columbia Pike. The reporter also asked her if she only saw 1 plane.(Exactly our point about the flyover plane confusing reporters/people, being called a second plane). She reinforces "So you actually saw the plane enter the building?" Why is that? Because the reporter is confused by people who said it did not hit the building.

Most importantly, the reporter asked if she saw any markings. She says...

"we were driving down Columbia Pike and it just shrew right over us... I didn't see any markings...the trees...the treeline (blocked our view).

Here is the bend on Columbia Pike to the left where the fire engine is driving, with the treeline:



Here is the rest of the treeline she was referring to:



Clearly she is speaking figuratively, and didn't clearly understand why the reporter was asking if she "actually saw it enter the building". She saw a plane, saw the explosion through trees and DEDUCED that it hit. And said "Why yes , I saw the plane hit the building".

SHE COULD NOT AND DID NOT SEE AN IMPACT.

Yes, smirking is the right word, isn't it? The Penny Elgas Flight 77 fragment below
which fell through her sunroof opening into her back seat somehow and was not
flaming hot from the explosion and did not burn her or torch her car.
Amazing isn't it how these Pentagon witnesses such as Aziz ElHallan (MOSSAD?)
and Elgas have aircraft fragments ending up in or by their cars and they get to
keep this crime scene evidence for their own personal use? Isn't it wondrous
that this guy appears nowhere on the witness lists, ended up with a piece of the
aircraft, appeared on FAUX 5 News, and can be found nowhere else in a search?
Airplane Fragment in Patriotic Box

Aziz ElHallan

Aziz El Hallan is an "apparent" Egyptian name with the "El" article being employed in many Egyptian names. He may have been an Egyptian intelligence officer or a Mossad operative as the means of him acquiring evidence should make one very weary of his narrative.

It is kind of ironic when one of the other was the Egyptian "Atta". It may be that Egyptian El Hallan (if neglecting for the second that this pseudo name is a ploy by a Mossad operative which is the other likely case) had more to do with 9/11 than "Atta."

imho his name is fake just like his testimony.

Is that a gated off section? How would he be able to walk in that section esp. after the attack? It appears everyone is wearing a badge.

Edit: He also said windowshields were broken from the sound. Anyone have evidence of this?

Well, finally we know what broken the Lloyd's windshield. Ok seriously, no, in all the transcripts of the interviews available nobody said anything about such thing. So unless he was talking of the cab, he's lying.

You are right, riv.

Although I swore, not to do so, I went back and listened to his interview now.

"...most of the cars had their windshields broken from the sound of the plane!"
This is such utter crap, that it makes even most of the sheeple puke.

Nearly smashed my computer sreen now/ Zap

That's the only witness who mentioned a broken glass:

This sounds a lot like the account of Daryl Donley:

"Also you can see in the road, possibly, all the, umm, debris from the Pentagon—[b]there’s lots of cement chunks in the road."



I still contend that the wall was blown out.

looks like another case of flying lightpole.

The start of the video -
Aziz: "... just around 9 or 8. 9:15 just hitting the one ten south actually north."

From the start he doesn't have his story straight. Also, 9:15? Was that the time it was orginally planned to happen?

3:40 on the Video -
Reporter: "Were you too far away to actual get out and help anybody...?"
Aziz: "... I did get out from the car, but was kind of ahhh immediately we saw a lot of military police and police get involved and we didn't know if they going to have other explosions after the 3rd one happened"

This part confirms his statement before about being around there for 20 minutes. This makes it even more clear he is saying he didn't leave the area around his car.

Looking at the close up of the picture he has something in his pocket, and doesn't have it in the interview. It's most likely a pen. I'm sure it's nothing, but thought I would point it out.

Is Aziz ElHallan a liar? He says he saw the aircraft at 9:15. The explosives went off in the Pentagon and stopped the clocks at 9:32. The official time that Flight 77 hit the wall was 9:37 (9:43 originally). The aircraft he saw took 22 (28) minutes to float up to the wall? He couldn't check his watch for inaccurate timekeeping and correct the difference? Can't any of these official witnesses get their lines right? Where is the director of this Hollywood fiasco? Fire the inept idiot. Turd Blossom? Where were you when this went down?

Is this the aircraft Aziz ElHallan 'witnessed' 22 minutes early?

Sorry, Purdue got it wrong. According to the security videos, the initial explosion was a bright white
high explosive, not the red-yellow-orange of a jet fuel explosion.


Perhaps Aziz ElHallan, if we can find him, should be given some truth serum and shown these photos.
Perhaps all of the Pentagon mainstream media witnesses could benefit from some truth serum and lie detector testing. B)

you think so?

How come?

Nah, cannot be a lightpole. We all know that light poles are very careful with the paint finish.

what was the map location of that car?

just to verify at pentagon on 9/11 morning.

Don't know where that photo was taken. According to the eyewitness accounts, Daryl Donley was "presumably on road in front of Pentagon". Daryl Donley did claim in reference to his famous 'plasma' explosion photo, that “This is a secondary explosion, 4 min after impact…”

Spreston,

We MUST stop the conjecture with missiles (and small drone planes). It convolutes the message and creates an easy strawman argument.

The plane was on the north side of the citgo and Robert Turcios saw it pull up.

That is all that matters at this point.

We need to dig out all the evidence and determine if explosives alone, or a Tomahawk missile or a small drone aircraft along with planted explosives did the damage to the Pentagon and killed all the targeted people. We know for a fact that Flight 77 could not have hit the Pentagon and we know that a 757 or similar aircraft flew north of the Citgo and apparently did a flyover. We know that the clocks stopped at 9:32 - 5 to 11 minutes before something officially slammed into the Pentagon. We know that according to the security videos, a high explosive with a bright white flash hit the Pentagon - not a red/yellow/orange jet fuel explosion. Jet fuel cannot burn or flash at a white heat level. We know that we have been lied to repeatedly by the Bush Regime and the FBI. We do not need to remain stalled on the north of Citgo issue alone. There are hundreds of fissures in the 9-11 fantasy event and they all need to be pried wide open.

Well, you'll get no support from me on it. It is needless conjecture and makes my job harder.

People DID NOT see a global hawk or small military plane. People DID NOT see a missile.

It was not there. You are creating a fantasy that does not have to exist. You want to go out and find support for this by critically analysing all the evidence and interviewing people, I am all for it.

But look how much sh*t we get just for suggesting a flyover. Why would you convolute the message?

Please, we have done the missile, the global hawk. The sh*t was all a ploy. It kept us busy doing nothing but theorizing which simply lends to this.

When you say "stalled", do you think that creating more conspiracy theories is going to "unstall it"?

We are not stalled. We are outnumbered. And it frustrates me that an ardent supporter who seems to get it, is going off on needless conspiracy theories that have already been debunked.

Why did we even go out there if you were all going to go back to theorizing, like what we researched and actually investigated doesn't even matter?

We have enough evidence to start focusing the magnifying glass.

Please think about what you are doing.

I brought out the factual times the clocks stopped inside the Pentagon and focused attention on that. That is not important? I've focused on many things which have not harmed the North of the Citgo flight path such as the fact that Reagan National was open all morning until the national order to ground all North American air traffic. I have focused on the fact that an aircraft as large as a 757 couldn't possibly have fit into the first floor area above the unmelted cable spools. How does that harm the North of Citgo flight path? I'm not pursuing a missile or Global Hawk or Skywarrior theory. I'm just commenting on them and helping to keep interest up. Many of these people who mostly support you guys have interests in these alternate theories. Since I am convinced that the two security videos were faked, then the white hot initial explosion which resembles a missile strike against the Pentagon is based on manufactured government evidence and not verifiable evidence. I will support the North of the Citgo flight path witness testimonies because they seem factual and I don't expect you or Craig to comment on these little sidelines. I am always thinking about what I am doing. If I return to the silly LC Forum, I will focus more on the North of the Citgo flight path there. These people here at PFT are much more open-minded and easier to get along with.

Aldo, the North side appoarch evidence is rock solid, and the Fly Over is the logic conclusion if the plane didn't hit the building. This is assuming it was AA77 they saw. I think/hope on this site we can explore ideas, and not have to dig into trenches to defend from the disinfo. attacks.

I think your too use to being attacked in other forums.

I guess you are missing my point, and perhaps I am coming off as curt. I should have used a smilie.

I am merely suggesting that we should focus our energy into a beam.

Rob and us do not like being the only one who contacts the authorities and gov't officials.

We just want there to be action. We have enough answers to get the ball rolling.

The clocks are an interesting piece that has been around for a while., but a puzzling aspect that does not answer questions, only creates more. It is not conclusive. It has not got the gov't officials to think 9/11 was an inside job. Did you know Russell Pickering goes around saying that the hand fell to '32' because the clock fell of the wall. He does ignore that the little is pointing right to the spot it would if it were 9:32 on the clock, but I am sure he will contend that it too fell. Do you see where I am going here?

"I'm not pursuing a missile or Global Hawk or Skywarrior theory. I'm just commenting on them and helping to keep interest up."

Well I appreicate the effor and intent. But believe it or not, you are doing more harm than good. People tend to shut down when too much information (and conflicting/confusing info at that) is thrown at them. And it does make my job harder, when people are chanting 20 different theories. We are still speaking with witnesses and have two more North side witnesses, so we are far from stalled.

Yeah I am. I am just curt with people sometimes. My state of mind is all business now.

bump

hey i have to run, and unfortunately i only found this "witness" and this thread about half an hour ago, but i wanted to add something:

the foxguy pronounces his name "el hallou", which is morrocan. so i looked him up, this is him:

http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?...y=&name_style=1


(scroll down about a third of the way)
http://www.wafin.com/archive.phtml?k=40&arttype=mom
clicking on his pic links to a picture of him cycling:




he is also a member here:
http://www.washingtonmoroccanclub.org/about.html


bottom of this page (is that his sister or wife? did he marry his "girlfriend"?):
"Fourteenth Annual AOL Time Warner Best Buddies Ball"
http://www.washingtonlife.com/backissues/a...est_buddies.htm


image #21 here (left hand column):
http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.as...n%20Binn&nbc1=1
caption: Mounia Elhallou and Aziz Elhallou at Capitol File Magazine's Holiday Party hosted by Niche Media CEO Jason Binn and Mira Sorvino at The Park at Fourteenth on Novermber 27, 2007 in Washington, DC


montgomery county home sold:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...004Sep22_5.html
WICKSHIRE WAY, 11030, No. B-1-Richard J. and Mary Anne Schoeb to Sara Ouardighi and Aziz Elhallou, $549,000.


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so far thats all i turned up, but it was a very superficial search. i was hoping it might be of some use for further digging. i'll probably dig into it later today myself, but help is always appreciated!

Wow!

Excellent work bro.

It's good having you back around.

I wonder why he is at so many red carpet events even though he is supposedly a sales manager at volvo.

And why would he be at the Navy Annex at all?

Very strange.

Man I wish we knew all this when we were in town.

We would have soooo ambushed him with a camera or audio recorder!

Good stuff man. At least we know he is a real person and not just some made up identity. I am glad you were able to get his name, because I would have never figured out the spelling of it.

hey guys, im sorry about getting back to this thread so late (too much multi-tasking and too many avenues of research lately). but i appreciate the props, and im always glad to contribute. its great to see the progress u guys are making, and im looking forward to the next chapter.

regarding the blacktie event, i found that although time-warner hosted the event that year, the "best buddies" thing is actually founded by Anthony Kennedy Shriver (related to governor ahnold'z wife - maria shriver):

about "best buddies":
http://www.bestbuddies.org/site/c.ljJ0J8MN...est_Buddies.htm



they actually have a cycling event every year, that audi and volvo are involved in:
http://www.kintera.org/faf/home/default.asp?ievent=104309



here is how aziz apparently became involved in the event, as a cycling coach:
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/articl...aper=73&cat=104


amount of money raised (aziz is a cheap bastard - 50 bucks was the cost of entry):
http://www.kintera.org/faf/search/searchTe...EC&team=1194320

other "best buddy" events:
http://www.bestbuddies.org/site/c.ljJ0J8MN...onal_Events.htm



he is also on Don Beyer's cyclingteam:
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Eaix7...clnk&cd=1&gl=us


Don Beyer is major big whig around here. his bio:
http://www.virginiaeconomicbridge.org/Orga...onald_Beyer.htm

there is no indication that aziz's connection to the beyer team has anything to do with anything other than cycling, plus he DID work for Volvo at one point, so that maybe how he became involved with team beyer. but with such limited information about aziz overall, i thought it was worthy background information.


speaking of employment, he used to work for martens volvo, but he is currently no longer listed as a marten's volvo employee:
http://www.martensvolvo.com/General-Staff.aspx

you can probably find him here instead (herb gordon's auto):
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:IZDO7...lnk&cd=14&gl=us


his employment at martens is mentioned here in a donation to Sandhills Political Action Committee in 2007 (to senator Chuck Hagel):
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/con...52.asp?cycle=08

or here:
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:RwYMl...n&gl=us&strip=1





other info that turned up- i found chef hicham (aziz's brother) here:
http://www.dcinternational.org/felisnavidad22dec2007.html


hicham's myspace (includes pics of brother aziz):
http://www.myspace.com/hichamdc


bike race with brother:
http://www.slide.com/s/KAqYmiB7zT-iagpObLElOdjn5nFuAZRN

aziz's wedding:
http://www.slide.com/s/VBTC7OalyD9zM8sWV0r8txLUAO23VMx5



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back to the earlier pics of aziz at the blacktie event where aziz and a lady are pictured with "Simon Jacobsen" and "Toni Glickman":
http://www.washingtonlife.com/backissues/a...est_buddies.htm

again- with such limited info overall, i could only dig so far. so i preface the following with a disclaimer: although there is no evidence of any direct ties between the people in the picture (other than commingling at a party together), nor any implication inferred about any wrong-doing - even if there are direct ties between such parties, i thought it might be interesting to know the backgrounds of the people aziz is pictured with. so at best most of the following is trivial, but i found it interesting (and somewhat informative about the local elite) none the less.

simon jacobsen:
http://www.hughjacobsen.com/ContactSimonJacobsen.html
http://www.hughjacobsen.com/SimonJacobsen.htm


jacobsen is a member of a super secretive group of elite calling themselves the "Georgetown Club":
http://www.georgetownleague.info/
http://www.georgetownleague.info/NewsAnnouncements.html

but they inadvertently out him as a member several times throughout the newsletter:
.



moving on to jacobsen's wife, toni glickman (pictured with aziz and co.):
jacobsen's marriage to glickman:
http://www.washingtonlife.com/backissues/a...ar/weddings.htm


her uncle, Dan Glickman, is another bigtime big whig, with major intelligence community affiliations:
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/819.html



http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...754C0A962958260



http://www.washingtonflyer.com/article/200...y/Leading%20Man



http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:7P4vp...lnk&cd=12&gl=us


congressional record of INTELLIGENCE BUDGET (Senate - April 21, 1993) hearing:
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1993_cr/s930421-budget.htm

very informative political bio of glickman (ex-republican):
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Glickman-C...med-Ag-Secy.htm



his son Johnathon Glickman is CEO of Spyglass Films which did CIA movies like "The Recruit":
http://www.spyglassentertainment.com/movie...es/library.html


so all in all, thats quite some company aziz keeps- if he does indeed have any dealings with the people he was pictured with at the best buddies ball.

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in closing, lets get back to aziz and the pentagon. peoplefinder makes mention of an arlington address for him:
http://www.peoplefinders.com/Summary.asp?f...=&doby=&x=0&y=0
but u have to pay to find out what address it is or was. the other sources (and i tried many spellings of his name) did NOT list any arlington address for him. so i guess the next step is to find out that arlington address and see how it fits into his story about his whereabouts on 911.

and then contact him (maybe?):

(this cached link includes an email addy for him - at top of the page)
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:IZDO7...lnk&cd=14&gl=us

or

http://www.herbgordonvolvoofsilverspring.c...rtment-New.aspx



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whew! i hope that explains why i have been putting this thread off for awhile. i was overwhelmed by trying to organize all the info into a post, plus i had to weed out about a third of the info i had cuz it wasnt really all that relevant.

but i hope that the above is of some help to our (collective) efforts. lets see what aziz can reveal, who knows? maybe he still has that piece of "flight 77", huh?

Impressive research, thanks :ph43r: .

Spyglass Entertainment, interesting 6 degrees of separation.

Good work bro.

Paranoia you got a PM.

thanx man! to me the fact that the current head of the Motion Picture Association of America was once head of the House Intelligence Committee, was a huge eye-opener in and of itself. but to see that his son runs a bigtime movie company, well that was the cherry on top.

Bump to make it easier to get to.

paranoia slays it.

Using this spelling, Aziz Elhallou, I didn't find him listed as a pilot. Anyone else?

Maybe just a case of a Car Salesman lieing to get some air time.

Thanks for checking.

I've been wondering if anyone has.

He's a proven liar either way.

steve riskus and aziz both raced in the "Bunny Hop" race in Suitland, MD (in 2007):

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Eaix7...cd=11&gl=us

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:KeqOH...cd=14&gl=us

20** 39 690 Riskus stephen
20 756 Elhallou Aziz Clean Currents p/b Don Beyer Volvo

from:
http://cid-6990251c4e20ab26.profile.live.com/

haha.

great find.